One must remember, Genesect was only around for a little more than half the 3 month period. It'll beat out Scizor till further notice without question.Mhm, Genesect didn't rise that much as I would expect it to be. Politoed however, wow. What a reversal of fortunes for sand..
Are you joking? lolIt's a shame chansey didn't drop to uu.. =/
Umbreon, by some miricle made OU? And are we seeing a return to OU for Smeargle?| 79 | Heracross | 1.639% |
| 80 | Umbreon | 1.606% |
| 81 | Mienshao | 1.562% |
| 82 | Smeargle | 1.515% |
| 83 | Nidoking | 1.400%
Well look at Aboma's placement.| 69 | Kyurem | 11813 | 1.906% | 8642 | 1.719% |
Can someone explain to me why Kyurem isnt used more? It beats most rain teams. Unlike other Dragons, it cannot be revenged by Genesect or Mamoswine. I would like to know reason as to why this has not yet moved to OU. Someone please enlighten me. I am here to listen to opinions.
It's only "shitty" because of Duggy, but having OU's strongest Stone Edge and Pursuit sure has its benefits.| 7 | Tyranitar | 14.059% |
| 53 | Hippowdon | 3.604% |
People say that Tyranitar is shitty in this meta... Why it continues to be the most used sandstorm-inducer in place of Hippowdon? Peharps it's what I said before... Tyranitar is more appropriate to offensive teams than Hippowdon.
As soon as Zarel or bmelts wake up, I would assume. The hard work of editing the tier files is done--the changes just need to be fetched and the server restarted. I'd do it myself, but I can't remember the account we use to do the github stuff...So... when can we expect PS to be updated for the tier changes? I'm itching to use this UU team with Meloetta...
Ah hmm..ok. I never said anything about weavile. Why did you bring it up? Kyurem outspeeds Mamoswine and KOs with Draco Meteor. Scarf Mamoswine?Apart from what IurtaeMont said above, while is true that Kyurem cannot be revenge killed by Genesect, Mamoswine and Weavile, in compensation it can be revenge killed by other things like Breloom and Terrakion. Also, nothing impedes Mamoswine from using Superpower and Weavile from using Low Kick against your Kyurem.
Yeah, I don't agree that Tyranitar is shitty, although with more new threats on each new meta, I must agree that Tyranitar is getting worse and worse. I hope that the next generation, either they give a big upgrade to Tyranitar (or Hippowdon) or create a new Pokémon with Sand Stream. It would be a shame if sandstorm teams became unviable just because one of the Sandstorm inducers has a pretty unfavorable type, and the other is not suitable for offensive teams.It's only "shitty" because of Duggy, but having OU's strongest Stone Edge and Pursuit sure has its benefits.
I was assuming that after Kyurem used Draco Meteor once, that after the spatk drop, Mamoswine could survive it. This is assuming that it's using Choice Specs or Life Orb. Also, Breloom is not going to OHKO Kyurem with Mach Punch anytime soon, but I assume that when revenge killing it, that Kyurem isn't at 100% health because of a little prior damage, and that would be sufficient for Kyurem to put it at OHKO range.Ah hmm..ok. I never said anything about weavile. Why did you bring it up? Kyurem outspeeds Mamoswine and KOs with Draco Meteor. Scarf Mamoswine?
252Atk Mamoswine (Neutral) Superpower vs 4HP/0Def Kyurem (Neutral): 72% - 86% (286 - 338 HP). Guaranteed 2HKO.
That is most likely a KO after Stealth Rock, but most Mamaswine dont use scarf. Note: If Kyurem knows that it is scarf, it can roost off superpower and Drain away its PP.
I was talking about the LO adamant/jolly versions. If Kyurem uses substitute as Mamoswine uses Superpower, Kyurem will beat Mamoswine easily. Breloom does not OHKO with Mach Punch while Ice Beam KOs in return. Terrakion can revenge but cannot switch in. Kyurem can function without hail. Hail isn't mandatory. On the ladder, I have only found a handful of people(Katakiri being one of them) using Kyurem and they said it was awesome. Kyurem has better coverage than Latios. It can use Earth power to OHKO Heatran and 2HKO Jirachi. Focus Blast can be used to OHKO every Tyranitar after Stealth Rock. Scizor can only switch in once. Kyurem runs a timid nature and thus it outspeeds most Haxorus and Hydreigons. Genesect takes 54-64% from Life Orb Draco Meteor which means that it can only switch in once.
Thank you for your time. Last time I posted about Kyurem, I was ignored. I would like to hear more opinions about why Kyurem is so underused. Read: Kyurem doesnt have a counter(i.e. there isnt a single pokemon that can counter every set)
The melt-downs in the UU forum if Chansey dropped back in would certainly make an interesting read.Are you joking? lol
Umbreon sucks dick. Having defensive stats isn't enough to be useful, just look at Regirock and Cresselia. Umbreon has good support moves and might be decent in UU but in OU? Why not just slap a sign on Umbreon that says "Spike on me!" Not to mention its a free switch in for basically everything not named Gengar.So, does this mean................
Umbreon, by some miricle made OU? And are we seeing a return to OU for Smeargle?