That'll hurts more than fixes honestly.Aegislash might need to make a triumphant return to OU because this thing is looking pretty broken.
That'll hurts more than fixes honestly.Aegislash might need to make a triumphant return to OU because this thing is looking pretty broken.
If He does I feel there will be a rise in Nature's Madness+Tapu Z crystalAegislash might need to make a triumphant return to OU because this thing is looking pretty broken.
MGarde is somewhat faster (and with the mega-evolving turn order change, this is true in all situations,) has a stronger Fairy STAB even factoring in LO which also penetrates subs, and has a much larger movepool (which includes Wisp.)Tapu Lele is better than garde in almost every way.
Are you really saying pokemon like Victini, Jirachi and Hoopa can't touch Tapu Lele? I know it's strong people but all the pokemon that check Mega Gardevoir with the possible exception of Scizor & it's Mega are pokemon that will check Tapu Lele.the problem i see in that, to resist psychic you use or another psychic (which will mean u will be doing jackshit to Lele), dark (who gets whiped with either fairy OR focus blast) or steel.
wow then its even worse...btw, if you above are using adaptability to act as a psychic terrain boost, im pretty sure thats wrong. the boost from adaptability is lower than the +1 that psychic terrain gives to psychic attacks, so tapu lele does actually have a chance to 2hko physdef suicune after rocks with psyshock
i did not think of them, and while they WILL harm Tapu lele back (if he stays and does not switch out with impunity), they will get damaged by a lot in the process, either by its other stab (its fairy being weaker than Mgarde does not mean its WEAK alltogheter. cause its not weak. 130 spa+lifeorb +stab hurts.) or coverage.Are you really saying pokemon like Victini, Jirachi and Hoopa can't touch Tapu Lele? I know it's strong people but all the pokemon that check Mega Gardevoir with the possible exception of Scizor & it's Mega are pokemon that will check Tapu Lele.
Having to run a strong Steel type in OU is nothing new. I don't know why everyone's already freaking out when this thing is literally alt. Gardervoir and that was nowhere near broken. Psychic Terrain can be removed by the other Tapus which are going to be everywhere anyway, running it also means limiting your own use of priority. Let's not talk about bans just yet.The problem is not even "checking" Lele...
The problem is that Specs Lele will for sure kill at least one Pokémon, due to being that strong AND offering good team support on Psychic Terrain.
Lele + Pursuit Trapper/Dugtrio/Magnezone + Secondary Psychic-type will be pretty common once people realize the sheer power of this thing. Lele is legit scary.
AND if everyone needs to run a Jirachi just to make sure Lele spam don't rolls you over, we'd just have a notable case of a over-centralized meta/mon.
Specs guarantee 2hko on Suicune, SpD Jirachi and Ohko pre-mega Metagross, Tapu Lele itself, all after SR.Specs Lele seems poor because Psychic/Psyshock and Focus Blast too are horrible to be locked in. Life Orb should be run on an ofensive set since I dont think any Ohko, 2HKO is changed.
I'm not able to find any switch in for this thing though so ... i dont know
Very few Steel types can take a move from Specs Lele without dying afterwards. If someone needs either Metagross or Jirachi to stop Lele, then the mon is over-centralizing.Psychic Terrain only stops priority moves, it doesn't affect Pursuit.
Having to run a strong Steel type in OU is nothing new. I don't know why everyone's already freaking out when this thing is literally alt. Gardervoir and that was nowhere near broken. Psychic Terrain can be removed by the other Tapus which are going to be everywhere anyway, running it also means limiting your own use of priority. Let's not talk about bans just yet.
Based on typing, Assault Vest Alolan Muk might make a decent check.
252+ SpA Choice Specs Gardevoir Moonblast vs. 248 HP / 64 SpD Assault Vest Drapion: 160-189 (38.7 - 45.7%) -- guaranteed 3HKO
100+ Atk Drapion Gunk Shot vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Gardevoir: 414-488 (147.3 - 173.6%) -- guaranteed OHKO
Probably something along the lines of Mew or Jirachi or Assault Vest Excadrill. If Aegislash stays, it will make a killer check as well!The list of things that can switch in to Tapu Lele is pretty thin. Most everything gets OHKO or 2HKO'd, and very few things that can live to 3HKO can OHKO it back to force a switch. What are you planning on switching in to Tapu Lele?
m-sharpedo isn't going to be the scariest use of this pokemon's potential, though. this is like saying scarf tyranitar is a waste of time because stoutland can't take full advantage of it, the point of it is that it's a powerful threat on its own that can then make other really strong pokemon (pheromosa, mega alakazam, etc) even strongerPeople are overestimating the power of Psychic Terrain without it's resispective item. I've seen Sharpedo be used a lot as a good partner for Tapu Lele so let's break down how it would go:
- Tapu Lele Switches In. Activates Psychic Terrain (Turn 1)
- Sharpedo Switches In. Easier said than done as it's still very frail and Tapu can't help it get in (Turn 2)
- Sharpedo uses Protect. In order to get the first Speed Boost (Turn 3)
- Sharpedo Megavolves and start attacking. (Two turns remaining)
So MegaSharpedo gets two turns to attack, without fearing priority and with boosted Psychic Fangs. That is without taking into account that every turn that Tapu Lele stays on the field is one less for Psychic Terrain for the other pokemon and if you choose to extend it then you won't be able to break through everything as some of this calcs seem to show.
You can't use Psychic Terrain with a scarf unless you're planning on spending all your turns on the field juut spamming a useless move. You could with Life Orb but if the terrain is what you're really interested in then Terrain Extender would be better.I think it may need to be considered to have the move Pshcyic Terrain with Scarf.
Auto-terrain is great, but if you want to have another pokemon take advantage of this in singles you will need to take make a switch which will damage whatever that pokemon is.
something you could do is just get as many hits in with Tapu Lele using auto-phsychic terrain, and if you see that youre about to die, and youre faster than the opponent use a suicide phsycic terrain for the next pokemon. essentially giving you 10 turns instead of 5. Just saying 5 only gets you so far