Mf forgot the tapus happened yeah those were totally balanced.
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Nuh uh
Please help this "mf" understanding and iterate instead of funny oneliners.
Tapus have not had any change in gen 7>8 other than terrain multipliers nerfed (and the nerf had more to do with Dynamax providing a free setting of the terrain to every pokemon rather than the tapus as none of the tapus was overbearing in competitive setting).
QuentinQuonce
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Yeah fair. I'm not a particularly competitive player so I'm more just thinking actual game mechanics. Pre-Gen 9 they basically just added abilities to Pokemon as a way of "filling in" species who only had one regular ability, but there were occasional balance changes like Scolipede getting Speed Boost or Gengar getting Cursed Body. I was purely thinking in terms of "what changes would make certain Pokemon more fun/interesting to use than they currently are" and "who could use a shakeup". But as you say, they're seemingly taking more notice of the competitive metagame now.
Realistically, Nintendo and/or TPCI realized how much money you can make off the e-sports scene and are investing development time into it.
(For both Pokemon mainline, TCG, Unite and Go, bare in mind)
Remember when it was a miracle if we got worlds finals streamed? Now we get regionals and even with localized streams...
calling greedent ugly is so funny to me. this is just generic mammal design, the same as eevee, snorlax etc. theyre like brothers.
As for an unpopular opinion, i guess I talked about it here but legendaries should be uncatchable. idc abt competitive arguments because half of them are straight up ass and cheeks, but lore and writing wise I find it much more interesting to interact with legendaries by treating them as legendaries, one off mons with their own plot points, personalities and stories to tell.
you can still keep some of the legends that are better off by being catchable like ogerpon by downgrading them from legendary into just special goobers anyway, like bloodmoon ursaluna.
also because i think itd make ppl mad and thats funny
As for an unpopular opinion, i guess I talked about it here but legendaries should be uncatchable. idc abt competitive arguments because half of them are straight up ass and cheeks, but lore and writing wise I find it much more interesting to interact with legendaries by treating them as legendaries, one off mons with their own plot points, personalities and stories to tell.
you can still keep some of the legends that are better off by being catchable like ogerpon by downgrading them from legendary into just special goobers anyway, like bloodmoon ursaluna.
also because i think itd make ppl mad and thats funny
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Once again, that goes completely against the spirit of the franchise.
Ever since 5 years ago the "spirit of the franchise" has been completely ignored in a duo combo of "pokemon wont be guaranteed to be present in the game and some of their formes will be completely unobtainable" and "the main game boss is an uncatchable form you can only see in a cutscene"
Also i don't really care. catching legendaries sucks and is lame anyway
It's the fucking face. The stupid cheek shape, beady eyes, and "bearded" color arrangement, and flat humanoid face that evoke more of a cartoon fat guy look than even a superficial Squirrel (Pachirisu preceding it by 4 Gens was much more convincing).
Not hating the design is an opinion, but you cannot objectively tell me that's the same "generic mammal" design as Snorlax (the fat vaguely Bear-based Mattress). It's a Mammal alright, but that Mammal is Peter Griffin's fursona, not a regular Squirrel.
I'm sorry I genuinely am but reading this and then looking at this mon is just really funny to me
Thats just a squirrel to me. It's a funny kinda fat squirrel but it truly is the most Just A Mammal off all mammals.
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Bringing up a reference it's the stupidly big muzzle, lack of a snout, and massive proportion of its head to its body that makes it hard for me to see a Squirrel. Pachirisu has a more simplified head shape and face, while exaggerating the tail proportion more.
Greedent also has the issue where I think the face is too detailed, with the extra muzzle, dimples/freckles, and longer-proportioned arms invoking too much of an uncanny valley feeling vs Pachirisu as a cartoon squirrel. Eevee gets away with its design for the same reason, mostly being a bunch of simple round shapes.
I think it's weird you mention the tail when greedent def has a larger tail to body proportion. The rest are opinions of course, but jumping from "it's design is a bit of a mess" to "this peter griffin idiot is the ugliest thing in the franchise" is making me giggle.
I'm not interested in defending greedents honor, this guy gives me 0 feelings and I only know it exists because I have pokémon autism and I love knowing all pokémon, but to me this is some of pokemons most inoffensive, safe, generic designs theyve made since like gen 1 seel and raticate. Ultimately its all opinions but the vitriol is what makes me laugh. I'd rather greedent get hate than my homie bruxish tho
The ugliest pokemon is by far dustox. Not only it is ugly, it has nO use neitger in game nor in strategy. Firstly the inspiration is a moth, my most hated animal, I almost broke my back because of one, And it commited the war crime of having the worst ever shiny!
That is An outrage! I bet 50%of you just tought it was just a regular one at night. I will never regret trading mine for another shiny. Here is regular one:
this one is Even better. Shiny is unacceptable And should be changed the sooner the better
Dustox is goated. I love drawing this goober
I don't love Dustox, but I don't mind using one. It's useful in-game against Brawly and its eyes look like cheese. (I love cheese.)
Personally I would like to experience the opposite, i.e., being able to play with formerly boss-only Pokémon like Eternamax Eternatus or the Starmobiles. I don't care if it's unbalanced, I want to use Master Hand and the Torque moves, darn it!
I read on Bulbapedia that it's a possibility Dustox's Shiny coloration is based on the Japanese silk moth, but it's unknown if that is an intentional reference or not much like with most other Shiny Pokémon. I'm not going to go on record and say this Pokémon is OP by any means, but I personally think it's at least better than Beautifly in most areas. Gen 3 is really when defensive Poison-Types started to become relevant in my opinion, with the buff to Toxic and the expanded distribution of Sludge Bomb, among other things. It's a perfectly fine earlygame support Pokémon that doesn't overstay its welcome.
Just because it's an unpopular opinion doesn't mean it has to be incorrect
https://www.smogon.com/dex/rs/pokemon/dustox/
The Starmobiles specifically seem designed to be available as alternate forms at some point, albeit in a form that abides by the normal rules of the game. I don't know if GF will actually follow through on that(Z version), but they're very clearly easy to port into a player-accessible build.
Are they? I feel like they wouldn't have gone to such bizarre lengths to make them if they were ever planned to be accessable. Especially considering they're even less playable than the previous non-accessable boss Eternamax.
The "a form that abides by the normal rules of the game" is doing a lot of work in my post.
This borders on wishlisting, but:
Take a Revaroom, either recolor it themed on the 5 Star teams or give it a new mini-Starmobile model, depending on how many spare modelers you have sitting around the office. New type, new move, new ability(which are already decided on). Give them all a Rotom-style new better stat spread. Release them as the Starmobile Revaroom, accessible with the new DLC for $$$. Never acknowledge in any way that that isn't the Starmobile the player faced.
While the Starmobiles are nominally considered a form* of Revavroom, it’s probably worth noting that in the story, they’re actually a complex hybrid of Revavroom, two Varoom, and Armarouge / Ceruledge. They’re not just a Revavroom with a big, gaudy, swappable exterior on them — which disinclines me to think that Game Freak would re-add them as more conventional forms.
* Though even in this regard, they’re different from usual. The Starmobile “forms” aren’t grouped with all the other alternate forms in the data, they don’t have names or even so much as empty spaces reserved for them in the common text files, which is something that even Koraidon and Miraidon’s various non-battle forms have, for some reason. Instead, the game basically just modifies the data of whichever Pokémon was sent out before the Starmobile.
* Though even in this regard, they’re different from usual. The Starmobile “forms” aren’t grouped with all the other alternate forms in the data, they don’t have names or even so much as empty spaces reserved for them in the common text files, which is something that even Koraidon and Miraidon’s various non-battle forms have, for some reason. Instead, the game basically just modifies the data of whichever Pokémon was sent out before the Starmobile.
Koraidon and Miraidon's bike forms likely have form data because it made it easier to code the ui. If the bike mode is an actual form then they can use the same code for displaying the sprite for that slot as they do the rest of the party.
While I would personally expect GF to give out the Torques as special tutor moves rather than provide access to the full type/ability swaps of the Starmobiles (if they do anything at all), there's precedent for hybrids being represented as single in-battle entities that are evolutions or super forms of their components. In particular, I'm reminded of Sun's dex entry for Metagross-Mega:
When a Pokémon story is so human-centric that it completely disregards the lore and capabilities of Pokémon heavily involved in the story, just to push further development for the human characters, it's a bad Pokémon story.
At first glance this might not be a hot take.
In practice this means DPPt and BW's stories, and even the climax of SM's story. Just the climax of that one.
At first glance this might not be a hot take.
In practice this means DPPt and BW's stories, and even the climax of SM's story. Just the climax of that one.