Month | 1825 Lando-T Usage | #2 Usage | Difference | #2 Pokemon |
May-19 | 42.9% | 31.7% | 11.2% | Magearna |
Apr-19 | 42.0% | 27.9% | 14.1% | Magearna |
Mar-19 | 45.9% | 28.8% | 17.1% | Magearna |
Feb-19 | 44.6% | 28.1% | 16.5% | Magearna |
Jan-19 | 44.5% | 26.4% | 18.1% | Magearna |
Dec-18 | 36.5% | 29.7% | 6.8% | Magearna |
Nov-18 | 38.6% | 29.2% | 9.4% | Magearna |
Oct-18 | 40.8% | 25.0% | 15.8% | Magearna |
Sep-18 | 40.4% | 26.1% | 14.3% | Magearna |
Aug-18 | 41.6% | 24.6% | 17.0% | Magearna |
Jul-18 | 40.2% | 25.7% | 14.5% | Magearna |
Jun-18 | 45.5% | 26.7% | 18.8% | Magearna |
May-18 | 42.5% | 24.5% | 18.0% | Clefable |
Apr-18 | 46.8% | 24.6% | 22.2% | Magearna |
Mar-18 | 47.1% | 24.7% | 22.4% | Magearna |
Feb-18 | 46.4% | 24.3% | 22.1% | Magearna |
Jan-18 | 49.1% | 24.9% | 24.2% | Magearna |
Dec-17 | 54.0% | 27.9% | 26.1% | Magearna |
Nov-17 | 52.2% | 26.7% | 25.5% | Magearna |
Oct-17 | 49.6% | 25.1% | 24.5% | Magearna |
Sep-17 | 41.9% | 22.5% | 19.4% | Tapu Koko |
Aug-17 | 37.4% | 22.4% | 15.0% | Magearna |
Jul-17 | 41.5% | 23.9% | 17.6% | Magearna |
Jun-17 | 42.7% | 25.2% | 17.5% | Zygarde |
May-17 | 41.9% | 23.5% | 18.4% | Magearna |
Apr-17 | 45.4% | 23.9% | 21.5% | Mega Metagross |
Mar-17 | 44.7% | 25.6% | 19.1% | Mega Metagross |
Feb-17 | 42.6% | 35.4% | 7.2% | Mega Metagross |
Jan-17 | 45.6% | 33.5% | 12.1% | Mega Metagross |
Dec-16 | 35.1% | 28.6% | 6.5% | Genesect |
30 Months | 43.7% | 26.6% | 17.1% |
SaveMeJebus You posted on the revamp, stuff takes time man
I only mentioned it because this was posted in that thread a few months back and Electrium Z has been gaining so much popularity in the last few months, it actually surpassed the Specs variant in last month's usage statisticsNo, because Tapu Koko's Choice Specs set plays vastly different from any other set. This includes Electrium Z. If anything, it should be mentioned in the Defog sets' Set Details, but in all honesty, I don't think it's really worth mentioning at all - Tapu Koko gets much more out of other items, and its team does too if it doesn't elect to use a Z-Move.
I added "It's preferred over Aura Sphere because of its superior damage output, allowing Magearna to 2HKO Ferrothorn, for example." to Shift Gear's Moves section. I also added "Despite Aura Sphere's perfect accuracy, Focus Blast is still preferred for its higher damage output against Steel-types like Heatran and Ferrothorn." to the Moves section on Magearna's Assault Vest set.For Magearna's Shift Gear and AV sets, the same quick sentence should be included in Moves to explain why Aura Sphere isn't used. I know that it previously was mentioned in the analysis and there was a general movement to remove any unnecessary or obvious information from them for concision purposes, but it's really not obvious to the average person why Focus Blast is used over Aura Sphere considering Focus Blast's horrendous accuracy and Aura Sphere's decent power. You don't necessarily have to say that Aura Sphere is an alternate option, but it'd be beneficial to add something like "Aura Sphere isn't used despite its perfect accuracy because of its inability to OHKO __, __" or whatever. Again, I feel that this would be a really common thought a lot of less experienced players would have so it's worth explaining why with a quick sentence - it almost looks like we forgot it gets Aura Sphere.
I've made a bunch of updates to Kyurem-B's analysis in general, it should look better now.just noticed there were a few outdated mentions on the LOKB team options
I think the tapu fini mentions here have gone full circle from being unviable to viable again lol. Haven't checked the rest of the analysis, might be worth a once over i guess but im too lazy rnPairing Kyurem-B with late-game cleaners is a smart idea. Pokemon like Tapu Lele, Ash-Greninja, Mega Pinsir, Volcarona, and Double Dance Landorus-T benefit from the damage Kyurem-B racks up on the opponent's team, easing their sweeps; the first three can also wallbreak on their own, making Kyurem-B's role easier to fulfill. Entry hazard removers like Mega Scizor, Mew, Zapdos, and Tapu Fini are great teammates as well, as they can Defog away the hazards that bother Kyurem-B. Mega Scizor can give Kyurem-B a safe switch in with U-turn; Mew deals with Mega Medicham and Mega Mawile; Zapdos can threaten Mega Scizor thanks to Heat Wave; and Tapu Fini can make Kyurem-B immune to status conditions for a couple of turns, thanks to Misty Terrain. Tapu Koko partners really well with Kyurem-B, as Kyurem-B breaks down many Tapu Koko checks such as Alolan Marowak, Magnezone, and Ferrothorn and Tapu Koko's U-turn and Volt Switch can help Kyurem-B switch in safely. Electric Terrain also boosts Kyurem-B's Fusion Bolt, which is especially relevant for maximum Attack variants. Finally, defensive Landorus-T and Rotom-W can lure in Steel-types like Ferrothorn and Celesteela as well as Grass-types like Tangrowth and Tapu Bulu for Kyurem-B and provide momentum with U-turn and Volt Switch. Magearna also provides Volt Switch support, can weaken Ferrothorn and Mega Scizor with Hidden Power Fire, and provides a switch-in to Tapu Lele.
I deleted the second paragraph and removed the outdated mentions in the first paragraph.Mega Gyarados has some outdated Team Options
Mega Gyarados fits well with Pokemon that can lure common checks to it like Tangrowth, Toxapex, and Zapdos. Protean Greninja with Extrasensory works extremely well, as it can lure in Toxapex and nail Tangrowth on the switch by bluffing Battle Bond. Pokemon that can pressure the aforementioned checks are also good partners. Three attacks defensive Zapdos can pressure Toxapex and Tangrowth, as well as Steel-types like Mega Scizor, and it can help with Keldeo and Tapu Fini.Latioscan also check Keldeo, pressure Toxapex, do massive damage to Tangrowth, and run Hidden Power Fire to bait in Steel-types like Mega Scizor and Magearna and take them out for Gyarados. Mega Gyarados is aided by Pokemon that heavily pressure offensive teams, which it sometimes struggles to deal with, such as offensive Shift Gear Magearna andAutotomize Celesteela.Magearna can punish checks to Gyarados with Thunderbolt, especially with an Electrium Z, while Celesteela can set up on checks to Mega Gyarados like Tangrowth.
Mega Gyarados appreciates entry hazard removal, so Tapu Fini can be good partner.Defog Latioshas good offensive synergy with Gyarados and can take on Keldeo and Zapdos, pressure Toxapex, and weaken Steel-types for Gyarados. Tapu Fini also allows Mega Gyarados to avoid Scald burns with Misty Terrain and helps withChoice Scarf Keldeo.Defog Zapdos and Defog Mew are also good partners for this reason.
Honestly, this is very nitpicky and considering that Breloom is never used, there's no need to bother.Wouldn't it make more since for breloom to run jolly and 216 speed to outrun timid magearna?? Yes theirs a drop in power, but I feel being able to outspeed an S rank mon and spore it seems pretty good. Also, I feel that a toxic orb poison heal set should be on the analysis. (Yes I know this mon is never used, and thats probably why it doesn't have a second set, but I still feel these changes should be made).
Technically, Tyranitar could just run more HP EVs to avoid getting 2HKOed. There's also the fact that Psychic almost never 2HKOes Clefable anymore with this spread change. Because of this, I think it's better to just keep it simple.Shouldn't Mega Latios run 84 Atk EVs to secure the 2HKO on AV TTar and AV Magearna after Rocks with EQ?
4 Atk Latios-Mega Earthquake vs. 224 HP / 0 Def Tyranitar: 168-198 (42.3 - 49.8%) -- 91.8% chance to 2HKO after Stealth Rock
84 Atk Latios-Mega Earthquake vs. 224 HP / 0 Def Tyranitar: 180-212 (45.3 - 53.4%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Stealth Rock
4 Atk Latios-Mega Earthquake vs. 248 HP / 0 Def Magearna: 160-190 (44 - 52.3%) -- 74.2% chance to 2HKO after Stealth Rock
84 Atk Latios-Mega Earthquake vs. 248 HP / 0 Def Magearna: 172-204 (47.3 - 56.1%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Stealth Rock
I've voiced my concerns about the Tapu Koko revamp that's currently in progress in the QC chat.Is the Tapu Koko analysis gonna get updated soon? The Specs set has been slowly dropping in usage in the passed few months and it seems like the information might become outdated pretty soon
I added Hidden Power Ground to Set Details.
I'll try to do most of this with the rest of the QC team later.I think it's worth mentioning for the 4x Ice and Fire weaks how common this coverage is used due to how ubiquitous these Pokemon are. Heatran and Scizor have this in the analysis, but I don't think the others do:
"However, due to Heatran's prevalence, it can lose to Pokemon it would otherwise check, such as Mega Mawile, Tornadus-T, and Volcarona, due to coverage they run specifically for it."
"Magearna, Mega Latias, Kyurem-B, and Mega Diancie—Pokemon that Mega Scizor is supposed to check—often run Fire-type coverage moves to defeat it."
This is the sort of thing I think is worth mentioning for all of the 4x Fire and Ice weaks, from the standpoint of "this is how the metagame is and this is what you should expect to see." All of the analyses mention this 4x weakness in Checks and Counters obviously, but similarly to how Usage Tips gives advice on how to play, if you were giving advice on a mon, you would say "yeah a lot of things run Ice coverage since 4x Ice weaks are so common in OU."
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On another note, I don't think Lando-T's overview does it justice.
It's like half positive and half negative (Thundurus-T and Buzzwole's OU analyses are almost more praising of them than Lando's). I know "everyone" knows how ubiquitous it is but at the very least, again from the "here is what the metagame is and what you should expect" standpoint, it seems lacking that the analysis doesn't mention that it's by far the the most common thing people slap on and, when players battle or build, they should expect to see one a lot of the time.
I didn't compile this info for the purposes of this post (I put this together previously because I was curious how long and by how much Lando's been #1 in usage for), but how often does a Pokemon do something like this:
Month 1825 Lando-T Usage #2 Usage Difference #2 Pokemon May-19 42.9% 31.7% 11.2% Magearna Apr-19 42.0% 27.9% 14.1% Magearna Mar-19 45.9% 28.8% 17.1% Magearna Feb-19 44.6% 28.1% 16.5% Magearna Jan-19 44.5% 26.4% 18.1% Magearna Dec-18 36.5% 29.7% 6.8% Magearna Nov-18 38.6% 29.2% 9.4% Magearna Oct-18 40.8% 25.0% 15.8% Magearna Sep-18 40.4% 26.1% 14.3% Magearna Aug-18 41.6% 24.6% 17.0% Magearna Jul-18 40.2% 25.7% 14.5% Magearna Jun-18 45.5% 26.7% 18.8% Magearna May-18 42.5% 24.5% 18.0% Clefable Apr-18 46.8% 24.6% 22.2% Magearna Mar-18 47.1% 24.7% 22.4% Magearna Feb-18 46.4% 24.3% 22.1% Magearna Jan-18 49.1% 24.9% 24.2% Magearna Dec-17 54.0% 27.9% 26.1% Magearna Nov-17 52.2% 26.7% 25.5% Magearna Oct-17 49.6% 25.1% 24.5% Magearna Sep-17 41.9% 22.5% 19.4% Tapu Koko Aug-17 37.4% 22.4% 15.0% Magearna Jul-17 41.5% 23.9% 17.6% Magearna Jun-17 42.7% 25.2% 17.5% Zygarde May-17 41.9% 23.5% 18.4% Magearna Apr-17 45.4% 23.9% 21.5% Mega Metagross Mar-17 44.7% 25.6% 19.1% Mega Metagross Feb-17 42.6% 35.4% 7.2% Mega Metagross Jan-17 45.6% 33.5% 12.1% Mega Metagross Dec-16 35.1% 28.6% 6.5% Genesect 30 Months 43.7% 26.6% 17.1%
I just copy and pasted this from Excel, didn't know it would format it this well automatically! But yeah, in the 1825 stats it's been #1 in usage for the past 2 and a half straight years and on average has 17.1% more usage than second place. Insane.
I know these are 1825 stats which are not quite the intended audience of the analysis, and that usage does not necessarily equate to viability, but the point is that I feel like we're kind of underselling Lando's grip on the tier.
I changed the spread to 232 Atk / 68 Def / 208 Spe for Kommo-o.Hey, I was wondering if it's necessary to change the EV spread on Scarf Lando-T to a slightly faster one. With the rise in Kommo-o usage (7.6%) in the last month, I think it's nice to have Scarf Lando-T outspeed +1 Kommo-o. You are only taking 12EVs from attack so you're not really taking away it's offensive power.
Sure Lando-T is not the best way to deal with it but it sure helps out a lot in a pinch to take out chipped Kommo-o with EQ/Explosion