acid city 2 - mafia win
mafia 101 - mafia win
neighborhood (tropius) - mafia win
oc noc - village win
popcorn - mafia win
town of salem - village win
dbz noc - village win
paranoia mafia - mafia win
nice basic game - Mafia win
Acid City's Trouble - Village win
Anonymous No Contact Mafia - village win
Fallout NV mafia - village win
Completely Normal Open Setup 8p - Mafia win
Mario Kart NOC - Village win
Twilight princess - mafia win
ANOCymous - village win
medieval NOC - mafia win
returning to our roots - mafia win
desktop dungeons - village win
peace NOCed down - mafia win
neighborhood (jalmont) - mafia win
company NOC - village win
10/22 village win
I threw out games that were bastard (Troll NOC), heavily imbalanced (bulletproof), or didn't really fall under a typical NOC game (Amnesia, deathnote). Yes, this isn't an objective list. Still I think it makes my point fine enough. (I may have missed some games, I know some games weren't listed in the games listing, so I had to go off memory for some of these).
Bonus fun game - who said this (it's about NOC games in case it wasn't obvious)
Also in going through some threads von had a cool idea from all the way back in 2010. And I actually don't know why this isn't done other than the fact that it wouldn't be as fun? Feasibility? Not sure?
mafia 101 - mafia win
neighborhood (tropius) - mafia win
oc noc - village win
popcorn - mafia win
town of salem - village win
dbz noc - village win
paranoia mafia - mafia win
nice basic game - Mafia win
Acid City's Trouble - Village win
Anonymous No Contact Mafia - village win
Fallout NV mafia - village win
Completely Normal Open Setup 8p - Mafia win
Mario Kart NOC - Village win
Twilight princess - mafia win
ANOCymous - village win
medieval NOC - mafia win
returning to our roots - mafia win
desktop dungeons - village win
peace NOCed down - mafia win
neighborhood (jalmont) - mafia win
company NOC - village win
10/22 village win
I threw out games that were bastard (Troll NOC), heavily imbalanced (bulletproof), or didn't really fall under a typical NOC game (Amnesia, deathnote). Yes, this isn't an objective list. Still I think it makes my point fine enough. (I may have missed some games, I know some games weren't listed in the games listing, so I had to go off memory for some of these).
Bonus fun game - who said this (it's about NOC games in case it wasn't obvious)
don't cheat or i guess you can cheat but that would be p. lame.??? said:This format really doesn't seem to be very effective. It's almost impossible for the wolf to win, because by the time the village has stated all their clean players, the mafia would be able to figure out who the wolf is.
It's almost impossible for the village to win because everything they say is out in the open for the mafia and wolf to read. The village has no spreadsheet or secret information, making them an essentially clueless majority until enough of them die.
Should anything happen to the inspectors (not as though the BG can keep them safe for long, his identity goes out the third time he protects one!) the village is essentially lost. You can guess, but if the mafia bands together to keep pushing for certain people, any newer, basic villagers will follow a group.
Also in going through some threads von had a cool idea from all the way back in 2010. And I actually don't know why this isn't done other than the fact that it wouldn't be as fun? Feasibility? Not sure?
Let's give ourselves some credit here. We are better at these sort of games (and have gotten better I would dare say) then we think we are. Hopefully, I no longer have to listen to people making the incorrect statement that smogon villages never win NOC games and people stop spreading this myth.vonFiedler said:The problem with NOC games is that the mafia has outside contact. I don't remember at summer camp a time when all the mafia players went into a cubby hole and talked to eachother and all the villagers just had to close their eyes. You're essentially playing half classic mafia, half forum mafia, and the forum half wins. We should do a true NOC mafia where the mafia can't communicate.