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Pokémon X & Y Version
In-Game Tier List Discussion
Pokémon X & Y Version
In-Game Tier List Discussion
What is an in-game tier list?
In-game tier lists rank Pokémon according to their usefulness during the main portion of the game—that is, until the credits roll for the first time. In-game tier lists provide players with the information needed to complete the game as quickly and as effortlessly as possible. For competitively-minded players, this approach to playing the game gives them more immediate access to useful items, TMs, and HMs.
What are the tiers?
In this in-game tier list there will be seven tiers (Or possibly more). Pokémon that are the most useful belong in the S-Tier, while Pokémon that are the least useful belong in the F-Tier. The tiers are as follows:
-S-Tier
-A-Tier
-B-Tier
-C-Tier
-D-Tier
-E-Tier
-F-Tier
Pokémon are tiered based on several factors:
-Availability: When the Pokémon can be first found, and how rare. Earlier Pokémon tend to rank higher.
-Typing: What is the Pokémon's typing and how useful it is in the game. More useful typings tend to rank higher.
-Stats: What their base stats are like and how they contribute to a team. Pokémon with better stats for in-game runs tend to rank higher.
-Movepool: What the Pokémon's movepool is like and how it contributes to a team. Pokémon with wider and more useful movepools tend to rank higher.
-Major Battles: How the Pokémon fares against key match-ups in the game. Pokémon who perform better against more major battles tend to rank higher.
-Other: Other aesthetics like abilities, levels, can minorly contribute to a Pokémon's tiering as well.
Basically, Pokémon who are ranked higher in the tier list tend to be found earlier in the game (or at a higher level), can win more match-ups from the game's various trainers (Including the Gym Leaders, the Elite Four, and Team Flare), have stronger movepools (usually being able to learn more TM's, HM's, and Level-up moves), and may have other useful aesthetics like more useful abilities, faster growth, or self-healing.
Which Pokémon are available in Pokémon X Version and Pokémon Y Version?
The newest entries in the Pokémon franchise add 68 new Pokémon to the franchise, and the game's Pokédex itself contains 454 Pokémon split across three sections. These additions lend unparalleled diversity to the game. Below, you can find a list of locations as well as the Pokémon that appear in each location. These locations are listed in the order they can be accessed in the game. Routes and Pokémon that only appear in the post-game are omitted from this list. A Pokémon is only listed in the area in which it first appears in the wild.
LEGEND
[G] = This Pokémon is given to you by a NPC.
[H] = This Pokémon can only be found in Hordes.
[IN] = This Pokémon is an interactable encounter.
[T] = This Pokémon is obtained via in-game trade.
[X] = This Pokémon can only be caught in Pokémon X.
[X*] = This Pokémon is first found here in Pokémon X only.
[Y] = This Pokémon can only be caught in Pokémon Y.
[Y*] = This Pokémon is first found here in Pokémon Y only.
Aquacorde Town: Chespin [G], Fennekin [G], Froakie [G]
Route 2: Caterpie [Y*], Weedle [X*], Pidgey, Zigzagoon, Bunnelby, Fletchling, Scatterbug
Santalune Forest: Caterpie [X*], Metapod [Y], Weedle [Y*], Kakuna [X], Pikachu, Pansage, Pansear, Panpour
Route 3: Dunsparce, Azurill, Bidoof, Burmy
Santalune City: Farfetch'd [T]
Route 22: Psyduck, Farfetch'd, Riolu, Litleo
----------GYM 1----------
Route 4: Ledyba, Ralts, Skitty, Budew, Combee, Flabébé
Lumiose City: Bulbasaur [G], Charmander [G], Squirtle [G]
Route 5: Abra, Doduo, Plusle [X, HY], Minun [Y, HX], Gulpin, Scraggy [H], Skiddo, Pancham, Furfrou
Route 6: Oddish, Sentret, Nincada, Kecleon, Audino, Venipede, Espurr, Honedge
Route 7: Snorlax [IN], Hoppip [H], Smeargle, Volbeat, Illumise, Roselia, Croagunk, Ducklett, Spewpa, Swirlix [X], Spritzee [Y]
Connecting Cave: Zubat, Whismur, Meditite, Axew
Route 8: Spoink, Taillow [H], Wingull [H], Zangoose [X, HY], Seviper [Y, XH], Lunatone, Solrock, Absol, Luvdisc, Bagon, Drifloon, Dwebble, Mienfoo, Inkay, Binacle
Ambrette Town: Amaura [G], Tyrunt [G], Aerodactyl [G]
Route 9: Hippopotas, Sandile, Helioptile
Glittering Cave: Machop, Onix, Cubone, Rhyhorn, Kangashkan, Mawile, Woobat, Ferroseed
Cyllage City: Steelix [T]
Route 10: Eevee, Yanma [H], Snubbull, Houndour [X], Nosepass [H], Electrike [Y], Sigilyph, Emolga, Golett, Hawlucha
----------GYM 2----------
Route 11: Nidoran [H], Nidorina, Nidoran [H] Nidorino, Hariyama, Starly [H], Staravia, Chingling, Stunky, Throh [Y], Sawk [X], Dedenne
Reflection Cave: Mr. Mime, Wobbuffet, Sableye, Mime Jr. [H], Roggenrola, Solosis, Carbink
Route 12: Slowpoke, Exeggcute, Pinsir [X], Tauros, Mareep [H], Heracross [Y], Miltank, Pachirisu, Chatot
----------GYM 3----------
Tower of Mastery: Lucario [G]
Route 12: Tentacool, Lapras [G], Remoraid, Clamperl, Mantyke
Azure Bay: Chinchou
----------GYM 4----------
Route 13: Dugtrio, Graveler, Slugma, Trapinch, Gible
----------GYM 5----------
Route 14: Ekans [H], Poliwag, Poliwhirl, Bellsprout [H], Weepinbell, Haunter, Quagsire, Barboach, Skorupi, Carnivine, Karrablast, Shelmet, Stunfisk, Goomy
----------GYM 6----------
Route 15: Murkrow [H], Mightyena [X], Lombre, Floatzel, Watchog, Liepard [Y], Basculin, Foongus, Pawniard, Klefki
Lost Hotel: Magnemite [H], Magneton, Voltorb [H], Electrode, Trubbish, Rotom, Litwick
Route 16: Phantump, Pumpkaboo
Frost Cavern: Jynx, Piloswine, Smoochum [H], Vanillite [H], Cubchoo [H], Beartic, Cryogonal, Bergmite
Route 17: Sneasel, Delibird, Snover, Abomasnow
----------GYM 7----------
Team Flare Secret HQ: Xerneas [INX], Yveltal [INY]
Route 18: Sandslash, Geodude [H], Graveler, Shuckle, Skarmory, Pupitar [Y], Lairon [X], Torkoal, Gurdurr, Heatmor, Durant
Terminus Cave: Ariados, Larvitar [HY], Aron [HX], Noibat
Route 19: Arbok [H], Politoed, Gligar [H], Drapion, Sliggoo
Snowbelle City: Bisharp [T]
Route 20: Jigglypuff, Noctowl, Sudowoodo [H], Zoroark, Gothorita, Amoonguss, Trevenant
Pokémon Village: Ditto, Banette
----------GYM 8----------
Route 21: Scyther, Dratini, Dragonair, Ursaring, Spinda, Swablu [H], Altaria
Route 22 [PATCH OF GRASS ACCESSIBLE BY WATERFALL]: Azumarill, Bibarel, Diggersby
Victory Road: Fearow, Poliwrath, Lickitung, Teddiursa [H], Druddigon, Zweilous, Hydreigon
[G] = This Pokémon is given to you by a NPC.
[H] = This Pokémon can only be found in Hordes.
[IN] = This Pokémon is an interactable encounter.
[T] = This Pokémon is obtained via in-game trade.
[X] = This Pokémon can only be caught in Pokémon X.
[X*] = This Pokémon is first found here in Pokémon X only.
[Y] = This Pokémon can only be caught in Pokémon Y.
[Y*] = This Pokémon is first found here in Pokémon Y only.
Aquacorde Town: Chespin [G], Fennekin [G], Froakie [G]
Route 2: Caterpie [Y*], Weedle [X*], Pidgey, Zigzagoon, Bunnelby, Fletchling, Scatterbug
Santalune Forest: Caterpie [X*], Metapod [Y], Weedle [Y*], Kakuna [X], Pikachu, Pansage, Pansear, Panpour
Route 3: Dunsparce, Azurill, Bidoof, Burmy
Santalune City: Farfetch'd [T]
Route 22: Psyduck, Farfetch'd, Riolu, Litleo
----------GYM 1----------
Route 4: Ledyba, Ralts, Skitty, Budew, Combee, Flabébé
Lumiose City: Bulbasaur [G], Charmander [G], Squirtle [G]
Route 5: Abra, Doduo, Plusle [X, HY], Minun [Y, HX], Gulpin, Scraggy [H], Skiddo, Pancham, Furfrou
Route 6: Oddish, Sentret, Nincada, Kecleon, Audino, Venipede, Espurr, Honedge
Route 7: Snorlax [IN], Hoppip [H], Smeargle, Volbeat, Illumise, Roselia, Croagunk, Ducklett, Spewpa, Swirlix [X], Spritzee [Y]
Connecting Cave: Zubat, Whismur, Meditite, Axew
Route 8: Spoink, Taillow [H], Wingull [H], Zangoose [X, HY], Seviper [Y, XH], Lunatone, Solrock, Absol, Luvdisc, Bagon, Drifloon, Dwebble, Mienfoo, Inkay, Binacle
Route 3: Magikarp
Route 8: Luvdisc
Route 8: Luvdisc
Ambrette Town: Amaura [G], Tyrunt [G], Aerodactyl [G]
Route 9: Hippopotas, Sandile, Helioptile
Glittering Cave: Machop, Onix, Cubone, Rhyhorn, Kangashkan, Mawile, Woobat, Ferroseed
Cyllage City: Steelix [T]
Route 10: Eevee, Yanma [H], Snubbull, Houndour [X], Nosepass [H], Electrike [Y], Sigilyph, Emolga, Golett, Hawlucha
----------GYM 2----------
Route 11: Nidoran [H], Nidorina, Nidoran [H] Nidorino, Hariyama, Starly [H], Staravia, Chingling, Stunky, Throh [Y], Sawk [X], Dedenne
Reflection Cave: Mr. Mime, Wobbuffet, Sableye, Mime Jr. [H], Roggenrola, Solosis, Carbink
Route 12: Slowpoke, Exeggcute, Pinsir [X], Tauros, Mareep [H], Heracross [Y], Miltank, Pachirisu, Chatot
----------GYM 3----------
Tower of Mastery: Lucario [G]
Route 3: Goldeen, Marill, Masquerain, Corphish
Route 8: Wailmer, Shellder [Y], Staryu [X], Skrelp [Y], Clauncher [X]
Ambrette Town: Horsea
Route 8: Wailmer, Shellder [Y], Staryu [X], Skrelp [Y], Clauncher [X]
Ambrette Town: Horsea
Route 12: Tentacool, Lapras [G], Remoraid, Clamperl, Mantyke
Azure Bay: Chinchou
----------GYM 4----------
Route 13: Dugtrio, Graveler, Slugma, Trapinch, Gible
----------GYM 5----------
Route 14: Ekans [H], Poliwag, Poliwhirl, Bellsprout [H], Weepinbell, Haunter, Quagsire, Barboach, Skorupi, Carnivine, Karrablast, Shelmet, Stunfisk, Goomy
----------GYM 6----------
Route 15: Murkrow [H], Mightyena [X], Lombre, Floatzel, Watchog, Liepard [Y], Basculin, Foongus, Pawniard, Klefki
Lost Hotel: Magnemite [H], Magneton, Voltorb [H], Electrode, Trubbish, Rotom, Litwick
Route 16: Phantump, Pumpkaboo
Route 3: Seaking, Gyarados, Crawdaunt
Route 8: Cloyster [Y], Starmie [X], Qwilfish, Dragalge [Y], Clawitzer [X]
Route 12: Corsola, Octillery, Huntail [X], Gorebyss [Y]
Azure Bay: Lanturn, Alomomola
Route 14: Whiscash
Route 8: Cloyster [Y], Starmie [X], Qwilfish, Dragalge [Y], Clawitzer [X]
Route 12: Corsola, Octillery, Huntail [X], Gorebyss [Y]
Azure Bay: Lanturn, Alomomola
Route 14: Whiscash
Frost Cavern: Jynx, Piloswine, Smoochum [H], Vanillite [H], Cubchoo [H], Beartic, Cryogonal, Bergmite
Route 17: Sneasel, Delibird, Snover, Abomasnow
----------GYM 7----------
Team Flare Secret HQ: Xerneas [INX], Yveltal [INY]
Route 18: Sandslash, Geodude [H], Graveler, Shuckle, Skarmory, Pupitar [Y], Lairon [X], Torkoal, Gurdurr, Heatmor, Durant
Terminus Cave: Ariados, Larvitar [HY], Aron [HX], Noibat
Route 19: Arbok [H], Politoed, Gligar [H], Drapion, Sliggoo
Snowbelle City: Bisharp [T]
Route 20: Jigglypuff, Noctowl, Sudowoodo [H], Zoroark, Gothorita, Amoonguss, Trevenant
Pokémon Village: Ditto, Banette
----------GYM 8----------
Route 21: Scyther, Dratini, Dragonair, Ursaring, Spinda, Swablu [H], Altaria
Route 22 [PATCH OF GRASS ACCESSIBLE BY WATERFALL]: Azumarill, Bibarel, Diggersby
Victory Road: Fearow, Poliwrath, Lickitung, Teddiursa [H], Druddigon, Zweilous, Hydreigon
Untiered Pokémon
Torchic - Event Pokémon
Articuno - Not available until Postgame
Zapdos - Not available until Postgame
Moltres - Not available until Postgame
Zygarde - Not available until Postgame
Mewtwo - Not available until Postgame
Any other Pokémon not obtainable before beating the champion or can only be obtained via earlier Generations or Events
Articuno - Not available until Postgame
Zapdos - Not available until Postgame
Moltres - Not available until Postgame
Zygarde - Not available until Postgame
Mewtwo - Not available until Postgame
Any other Pokémon not obtainable before beating the champion or can only be obtained via earlier Generations or Events
What is, and what is not being tiered?
A Pokémon that is not being tiered is not being so if:
-They come from an event
-They cannot be captured until the postgame
-They cannot be caught in-game or can only be caught through Friend Safari
Coincidentally, Hidden Abilities are not being considered for tiering, unless the Pokémon can be found in Horde encounters, though they will only have a minor influence on tiering.
Mega Pokémon will be considered for tiering if their mega evolution stone can be obtained before the postgame, and can have an impact on tiering.
Mega Venusaur - Venusaurite (Given from Prof. Sycamore on getting Bulbasaur)
Mega Charizard X - Charizardite X (Given from Prof. Sycamore on getting Charmander in X)
Mega Charizard Y - Charizardite Y (Given from Prof. Sycamore on getting Charmander in Y)
Mega Blastoise - Blastoisinite (Given from Prof. Sycamore on getting Squirtle)
Mega Gengar - Gengarite (Given from a NPC in Laverre City)
Mega Aerodactyl - Aerodactylite (Given upon reviving Old Amber [Obtainable via Rock Smash in Glittering Cave])
Mega Ampharos - Ampharosite (Given from a NPC in Azure Bay)
Mega Lucario - Lucarionite (Held by Gift Lucario)
Mega Abomasnow - Abomasite (Given from an Abomasnow in Frost Cavern)
Mega Charizard X - Charizardite X (Given from Prof. Sycamore on getting Charmander in X)
Mega Charizard Y - Charizardite Y (Given from Prof. Sycamore on getting Charmander in Y)
Mega Blastoise - Blastoisinite (Given from Prof. Sycamore on getting Squirtle)
Mega Gengar - Gengarite (Given from a NPC in Laverre City)
Mega Aerodactyl - Aerodactylite (Given upon reviving Old Amber [Obtainable via Rock Smash in Glittering Cave])
Mega Ampharos - Ampharosite (Given from a NPC in Azure Bay)
Mega Lucario - Lucarionite (Held by Gift Lucario)
Mega Abomasnow - Abomasite (Given from an Abomasnow in Frost Cavern)
Current Rankings
Aerodactyl
Charmander [X]
Charmander [Y]
Availability: Lumiose City (Gift from Professor Sycamore)
Stats: Geared towards Special sweeping with high Sp. Attack and decent speed, taken even further with Mega Charizard Y with an astronomical Sp. Attack with decent Speed and decent special bulk. Everything else is average.
Typing: Fire / Flying in its final form (Regular and Mega Y) provides a stellar offensive typing that gives it SE STAB coverage against a fair chunk of the game. Defensively it provides a few weaknesses (one that can be mitigated through mega evolution) but a few important resistances to help its cause.
Movepool: Dragon Rage early on provides it with a great offensive attack to 2HKO the majority of the early-game and helps make up for the lack of good STAB until Flame Burst. After evolution to Charizard, it comes with a wide array of Special coverage from Air Slash to Flamethrower to Focus Blast and Solar Beam in the endgame. It also has a usable Attack stat to make good use of its physical coverage if needed.
Major Battles: Struggles a bit with Grant and Korrina but pretty much from Ramos onwards, it has a great matchup against almost everyone you face, especially once it becomes Charizard. Aside from a few exceptions like Clemont to some extent, many opponents will struggle to contain Mega Charizard Y, even Siebold thanks to Solar Beam.
Additional Comments: Thanks to Drought, Mega Charizard Y is one of the single best Pokémon when it comes to cleaving through the game. Its Mega Evolution and Drought trigger does make mega evolution a bit time costly but that is more than made up for thanks to its raw power to the point that many things will either be OHKOed or 2HKOed by its attacks.
Honedge
Riolu
Azurill
Budew
Bulbasaur
Fennekin
Haunter (w/ Trade)
Heracross [Y]
Magikarp
Sawk [X]
Abra
Axew
Ferroseed
Froakie
Gible
Hawlucha
Magneton
Mime Jr.
Nidoran
Nidoran
Onix (w/ Trade)
Pinsir [X]
Ralts (Gallade)
Ralts (Gardevoir)
Scatterbug
Sigilyph
Squirtle
Starly
Staryu [X]
Throh [Y]
Tyrunt
Xerneas [X]
Yveltal [Y]
Zangoose
Absol
Bidoof
Binacle
Caterpie
Chespin
Doduo
Drifloon
Eevee (Espeon)
Eevee (Flareon)
Eevee (Sylveon)
Eevee (Vaporeon)
Emolga
Fletchling
Furfrou
Hariyama
Haunter (w/o Trade)
Kangaskhan
Karrablast (w/ Trade)
Lapras
Machop
Meditite
Miltank
Oddish (Vileplume)
Pancham
Pansear
Pikachu
Sandile
Scraggy
Seviper
Shellder [Y]
Skiddo
Snorlax
Solosis
Tauros
Tentacool
Trapinch
Venipede
Zubat
Amaura
Aron [X]
Bagon
Basculin
Bellsprout
Bergmite
Bunnelby
Carvanha
Chatot
Chinchou
Clauncher [X]
Corphish
Croagunk
Cryogonal
Cubchoo
Cubone
Ducklett
Durant
Dwebble
Eevee (Jolteon)
Electrike [Y]
Espurr (F)
Espurr (M)
Farfetch'd
Flabébé
Floatzel
Geodude (w/ Trade)
Goldeen
Golett
Goomy
Gorebyss
Gulpin
Gurdurr
Heatmor
Helioptile
Hippopotas
Houndour [X]
Huntail
Inkay
Kecleon
Klefki
Litleo
Litwick
Lombre
Lunatone
Mantyke
Mareep
Mienfoo
Nincada
Oddish (Bellossom)
Panpour
Pansage
Pawniard
Phantump (w/ Trade)
Pidgey
Piloswine
Poliwag (Politoed)
Poliwag (Poliwrath)
Psyduck
Pumpkaboo (w/ Trade)
Quagsire
Relicanth
Remoraid
Rhyhorn
Rotom
Sableye
Shelmet (w/ Trade)
Skorupi
Skrelp [Y]
Smoochum
Snover
Snubbull
Solrock
Spoink
Spritzee (w/ Trade) [Y]
Stunfisk
Stunky
Swablu
Swirlix (w/ Trade) [X]
Taillow
Ursaring
Weedle
Whismur
Woobat
Zigzagoon
Alomomola
Ariados
Audino
Banette
Barboach
Burmy (Mothim)
Burmy (Wormadam Plant)
Burmy (Wormadam Sand)
Burmy (Wormadam Trash)
Carbink
Carnivine
Chingling
Combee
Dedenne
Delibird
Dratini
Druddigon
Dunsparce
Eevee (Glaceon)
Eevee (Leafeon)
Eevee (Umbreon)
Ekans
Electrode
Exeggcute
Fearow
Foongus
Geodude (w/o Trade)
Gligar
Gothorita
Hoppip
Horsea
Illumise
Jigglypuff
Larvitar [Y]
Lickitung
Liepard [Y]
Masquerain
Mawile
Mightyena [X]
Minun
Murkrow
Noctowl
Noibat
Nosepass
Pachirisu
Plusle
Qwilfish
Roggenrola
Sandslash
Scyther
Sentret
Shedinja
Skarmory
Skitty
Slowpoke (Slowbro)
Slowpoke (Slowking)
Slugma
Sneasel
Spritzee (w/o Trade) [Y]
Sudowoodo
Swirlix (w/o Trade) [X]
Torkoal
Trubbish
Vanillite
Volbeat
Wailmer
Watchog
Wingull
Yanma
Zoroark
Zweilous
Clamperl
Corsola
Ditto
Karrablast (w/o Trade)
Ledyba
Luvdisc
Onix (w/o Trade)
Phantump (w/o Trade)
Pumpkaboo (w/o Trade)
Shelmet (w/o Trade)
Shuckle
Smeargle
Spinda
Wobbuffet
CENTRAL
None!
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COASTAL
None!
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MOUNTAIN
None!
None!
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COASTAL
None!
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MOUNTAIN
None!
Formatting
Use the following format when submitting a Pokémon:
[IMG]<Sprite URL (Please use Smogon Sprites)>[/IMG]
[B]Name
Availability:[/B] When does this Pokémon become available? Is it easy or hard to encounter?
[B]Stats:[/B] Describe how a Pokémon's stats make it excel. Is it a deadly sweeper or a strong wall? Discuss why you would use this Pokemon thank to its stats.
[B]Typing:[/B] Discuss this Pokémon's typing in a sentence or two. Is its STAB efficient or not, does it have any great resistances or glaring weaknesses?
[B]Movepool:[/B] Describe this Pokémon's movepool in a few sentences. Does it have many effective movepool options through level up? Is it over reliant on TMs to function? Does it have access to useful HMs to help you traverse the region?
[B]Major Battles:[/B] Describe how the Pokémon handles the major opponents throughout the game. Notable opponents and battles include the Gym Leaders, battles against various members of Team Flare, the various rival battles with your friends, the Elite Four themselves, the Champion, and AZ.
[B]Additional Comments:[/B] Discuss any miscellaneous information not covered in other sections here. Factors such as experience growth, abilities, and other lesser characteristics can be discussed here. The entry can be wrapped up here as well.
For Pokémon with trade evolutions, I will tier them separately for those entries with trading and those without. If they are both with and without classed in the same tier after most things are tiered, they may be merged. Please write professionally.
Some guidelines to follow:
- No glitches allowed.
- No trading in Pokémon from other games. For forth and back trading to evolve Haunter, Pumpkaboo, etc., read above.
- We do not decide the tiering of one Pokémon based on its performance relative to another Pokémon. It does not matter if Pokémon X does the same thing better than Pokémon Y; if both are good enough for the same tier, they will be placed as such. (e.g. Pansear should be E-Tier, because Charmander does its job way better)
- Try not to factor leaving Exp. Share on when nominating. This is because the increase in growth over time means you could easily out-level other opponents by at least 10 levels later in the game, and of course Pokémon are going to do a better job against something when they are that much higher. This causes a bias that means everything gets tiered higher, and I want a more accurate reflection on its performance. You could try to extrapolate though.
- Super Training and Poké Amie are going to be considered inefficient for the purposes of tiering, so do not bother trying to factor those. If you are using Sylveon, then obviously Poké Amie is fair game since you have to use it in order to get it.
- Have fun!
Feel free to dispute and discuss other users submissions, but please, no flaming. Normal forum rules apply here.
Finally, This is not the place to talk about the games in general. Go here to do that.
Oh, and a useful spreadsheet courtesy of user IOS that might help you when writing about Pokémon.
This will be done in a few phases. First, initial tiering and placing, then writing up the entries, then finally reviewing placings and write-ups. Then we will attempt to get it on-site.
Other than that, that is all.
Cheers!
Its_A_Random
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