---> grab your popkernels
last vote was a month ago so next vote'll be in 2 months so if you tell me "this was done last round" I'm going to just give you the ol' shrugface and say there's too much time between votes anyways
Bisharp -> 3
see previous nom post
also see my very angry response when this wasn't moved down last time it was nommed
Sylveon -> 1.5
CM set has proven to be very good at covering for its weaknesses to amoonguss and heatran
Also intimidate is on every team basically and physical attackers are kang, lando, and ...talon? move this to 1.5 please
Hoops->2
fairies and like no resists and shrug
it's a'ight against dragons and all heatran/special attackers but falls flat on switching into anything
feels meh to use imo, someone prove me wrong
Scrafty -> 1.5
Shit's versatile af
like in 80% of the teams that don't have lando, scrafty is there
I know 80% of 0 is still 0 but you get my point so yeah
Fairies are an issue as always but fake out and intimidate and being able to switchin on stuff like slides and kang is rly nice
Also complements fairies p well
Mega Venu -> 1.5
Very bulky
Best sun mu of all the grasses (also chloro)
always fun to use and always pulls weight
just build properly: deal with garde and fires and you'll be ok
Heattom-> 3
idk I like volt switch set but theory alone can't keep this in 2. Move to 3 please
Glop -> 2
It's good fams idk what else to tell you
It's not as effective just like in sheer terms of how "goodstuffs" it is but it pulls weight in games where it's just like "ok now gastro beats all 4 of the remaining mons"
Diancie -> 2
semiroom / fullroom are both flames fight me on this one
amazing coverage and murders teams after steel is killed
Thundurus -> 1.5
It got hit hard by swagger ban, and it does terribly against stuff like garde and/or semiroom
Like ok you para'd my heatran lemme set up tr now?
So much of hte meta is bulky goodstuffs mons like sylveon or heatran that don't really care about thund that I think this can be tier 1.5
ON TIER 4
I DONT THINK WE SHOULD GET RID OF IT BUT WE SHOULD RETHINK OF IT AS "FRINGE-CASE VIABILITY"
so like you should be able to point at a decent team that used said mon and was alright
it doesn't have to be super succesful but it has to have been used in some shape or form
otherwise it's impossible to measure something's viability because you have no real battles in which it was used
That said, everything in tier 4 -> UR
except Bronzong, Mega Camel, Entei, Goth, Milotic, Raichu, Reuniclus, Sableye, Mega Swamp, Togekiss, Ttar, Victini, Whimsi
Unless you can legitimately say that hariyama has had competitive usage or something idk
honestly could get rid of tier 4 and just move some of them to tier 3 sigh.. but maybe this way would be better
Like imma just quote @milktankmilk here
"Tier 4 isn't meant to be good mons but everything there has some sort of niche thats relevant enough that the VR council said its fine."
Are you really going to tell me Serperior is a relevant threat that has a niche...? Crossapply this question to all the other things that I excluded in my list of exceptions of the tier 4 purge
ALSO I'm going to talk about/dissent:
Aegis -> 1.5
because it's still strong af and fills a capacity as an offensive prescence steel that jirachi can't. It's very different from Heatran and it definitely has its own niche imo. Idk it's bulky as fuck and strong what is there not to like besides low speed?
MGengar-> 1.5
I like this nom but I feel like you gotta keep in mind its poor coverage options that don't hit very hard (ie sball doesn't KO aegis/Jirachi), while it's also frail with few relevant resists
Stuff like Heatran love sitting on gar
Also I feel like there's this image of "I'm going to use Gar and trap things and take advantage of my opp being trapped to setup" but realistically you don't really get to do that because switching is more awkward in doubles than in singles and most things use coverage options that are hard to switch into. Gar isn't the type of mon that threatens murders so it doesn't get that kind of offensive presence either.
Mega Evolving is also awko tacos
Volcanion -> 1.5
there's like nothing you can throw on a team and say "and now I feel like my volcanion matchup is perfectly fine"
very versatile and strong/bulky af
It's got more usage than tran I think in doubles open and it slays azu jirachi, keep it in 1