Checkmater
It’s just us kittens left, and the rain is coming
it's a talon set ;w;
Zapdos @ Safety Goggles
8 HP / 128 Def survives Life Orb Talonflame's Brave Bird with 8 less EVs.heres the only bulky hoopa spread that ive liked
donovan (Hoopa-Unbound) @ Life Orb
Ability: Magician
EVs: 152 Atk / 144 Def / 148 SpA / 64 Spe
Rash Nature
- Hyperspace Hole
- Hyperspace Fury
- Ice Punch
- Protect
defensive investment lets you take a talonflames brave bird + keldeos secret sword (which you normally wouldnt, of course) and can ohko back! shoutouts to xzern for coming telling me abt the 144 defense thing on hoopa, and also for having 20 times as many gfs as me (0 x 20 is 0). 148+ spa lets you always ohko amoonguss with hyperspace hole, while the speed lets you pass up scarf-adamant landog, while the rest is dumped in attack. if ur using this on trick room, move the speed evs to attack and the nature to quiet :0
heres some relevant calcs
-1 152 Atk Life Orb Hoopa Unbound Ice Punch vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Landorus-T: 343-406 (107.5 - 127.2%) -- guaranteed OHKO
252+ Atk Life Orb Talonflame Brave Bird vs. 0 HP / 144 Def Hoopa Unbound: 251-296 (83.3 - 98.3%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
152 Atk Life Orb Hoopa Unbound Hyperspace Fury vs. 4 HP / 0 Def Talonflame: 308-364 (103.3 - 122.1%) -- guaranteed OHKO
252 SpA Life Orb Keldeo Secret Sword vs. 0 HP / 144 Def Hoopa Unbound: 220-261 (73 - 86.7%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
152 Atk Life Orb Hoopa Unbound Hyperspace Fury vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Aegislash-Shield: 330-390 (101.8 - 120.3%) -- guaranteed OHKO
148+ SpA Life Orb Hoopa Unbound Hyperspace Hole vs. 252 HP / 76+ SpD Amoonguss: 432-510 (100 - 118%) -- guaranteed OHKO
These are lame spreads, use this:hey life orb lando t is increasing in popularity so i thought i'd post some basic spreads to get the discussion started and if people who have used this set more (like KyleCole and Hashtag) want to post their spreads they should do so
Here's probably the best one:
EVs: 168 HP / 252 Atk / 88 Spe
Adamant Nature
Max attack, outspeeds bisharp and other neutral natured max invested base 70s, rest into HP
A faster one:
EVs: 76 HP / 252 Atk / 180 Spe
Adamant Nature
Same as above but outspeeds boosting natured base 70s like breloom
And an even faster one:
EVs: 32 HP / 252 Atk / 224 Spe
Jolly Nature
This one outspeeds neutral base 100s, like adamant kang, and does the same as the above 2
Landorus-Therian @ Life Orbhey life orb lando t is increasing in popularity so i thought i'd post some basic spreads to get the discussion started and if people who have used this set more (like KyleCole and Hashtag) want to post their spreads they should do so
Here's probably the best one:
EVs: 168 HP / 252 Atk / 88 Spe
Adamant Nature
Max attack, outspeeds bisharp and other neutral natured max invested base 70s, rest into HP
A faster one:
EVs: 76 HP / 252 Atk / 180 Spe
Adamant Nature
Same as above but outspeeds boosting natured base 70s like breloom
And an even faster one:
EVs: 32 HP / 252 Atk / 224 Spe
Jolly Nature
This one outspeeds neutral base 100s, like adamant kang, and does the same as the above 2
it creeps diancie un-mega (which is definitely a good benchmark because no diancie will protect in front of a toge unless threatened by toge partner so getting tailwind off before they can diamondstorm can come clutch it a lot of matches, see me vs clius g3) and maxspeed deoa/aero-mega in tailwind. I suppose one could move it lower to landot if they wanted
- checkmater's Togekiss spread creeps what it's supposed to outspeed by a lot, maybe move 24 Speed EVs to Special Defense?
victini isn't surviving 252+ lando-t EQ with that spread but has a lot of margin to dying vs scald
Victini
EVs: 128 HP / 252 Atk / 4 Def / 124 SpD
Brave Nature
IVs: 0 Speed
Lives max atk Lando-T Earthquake, 252 LO Timid Keldeo Scald
252 Atk Life Orb Bisharp Knock Off (97.5 BP) vs. 196 HP / 132+ Def Jellicent: 416-491 (106.6 - 125.8%) -- guaranteed OHKO
Jellicent
EVs: 196 HP / 132 Def / 180 SpD
Relaxed Nature
IVs: 0 Speed
Lives Choice Specs 252+ Hydreigon Dark Pulse, lives 252+ Life Orb Bisharp Knock Off, lives 172+ Ferrothorn Power Whip.
You forgot to factor in spread reduction, which means that Victini can live an Earthquake :B:victini isn't surviving 252+ lando-t EQ with that spread but has a lot of margin to dying vs scald
252 SpA Life Orb Keldeo Scald vs. 128 HP / 124 SpD Victini: 299-354 (80.1 - 94.9%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
252+ Atk Landorus-T Earthquake vs. 128 HP / 4 Def Victini: 390-458 (104.5 - 122.7%) -- guaranteed OHKO
You are right about Melo forgotting to calc Knock Off with an item. You are also correct about Melo not completely guaranteeing those calcs (smh Melo :P). Anyways, here is a spread which does reach the other two benchmarks (tip for everyone when making spreads: (generally) use the nature to boost the highest stat!!!). A spread of 232 HP / 192 Def / 84 SpD achieves the following:you fail to reach all benchmarks you listed (it's even jolly bisharp, unless you meant itemless jellicent in which case all high hp spreads live that), and i can't make a spread that does all of that, but i can at least make a more efficient spread that has higher bulk on both sides
248 HP / 108+ Def / 152 SpD
252 Atk Life Orb Bisharp Knock Off (97.5 BP) vs. 248 HP / 108+ Def Jellicent: 424-502 (105.2 - 124.5%) -- guaranteed OHKO
252+ SpA Choice Specs Hydreigon Dark Pulse vs. 248 HP / 152 SpD Jellicent: 348-410 (86.3 - 101.7%) -- 12.5% chance to OHKO
172+ Atk Ferrothorn Power Whip vs. 248 HP / 108+ Def Jellicent: 338-402 (83.8 - 99.7%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Leftovers recovery
Mega Gardevoir's base HP is very low in comparison to its Special Defense, so raising the former is more efficient for surviving special attacks. 56 HP / 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 196 Spe does the same with maximised Special Attack:mega-gardevoir
EVs: 236 SpA / 76 SpD / 196 Spe
Modest Nature
lives aegislash flash cannon/shadow ball, outspeeds 252+ hoopa-unbound