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ORAS additions from alexwolf's ORAS Metagame discussion thread
Between XY and ORAS, a lot has changed; with new Mega Pokemons being introduced, the meta has seen quite a few shifts. Greninja was its first victim -after the quick ban of Mega Salamence- by being sent to Ubers with an outstanding 82% of the votes.
Mega Metagross was about to be the second, but it was saved by a few votes only.
Between XY and ORAS, some Pokemon kept themselves as threats such as Keldeo. Others just made the first step in ORAS and declared themselves "Top Tier Threats"; Landorus-I, Mega Altaria, Mega Sableye and the infamous Mega Metagross were the most noticeable out of those. On the other hand, other Pokemon took the bullet and dropped heavily in usage and viability. These include Mega Pinsir, Mega Charizard X and Mega Heracross.
With ORAS being released it changed the meta a lot. whether or not the ORAS changes benefited or harmed the metagame is subject to debate, this is something a lot of us may wonder which is the reason of this thread. Essentially, this read will be comparison between both XY and ORAS metaegames with respect to numerous criteria: threats, speed creep, which one is more fun, which one is more balance, what does/did each meta need to become closer to a "perfect tier". These questions are more will be discussed in this thread.
Here is a list of all changes made with the ORAS release:
Bans
New Abilities Released
New Mega Evolution
Movepool and Items Additions
ORAS additions from alexwolf's ORAS Metagame discussion thread
Between XY and ORAS, a lot has changed; with new Mega Pokemons being introduced, the meta has seen quite a few shifts. Greninja was its first victim -after the quick ban of Mega Salamence- by being sent to Ubers with an outstanding 82% of the votes.
Mega Metagross was about to be the second, but it was saved by a few votes only.
Between XY and ORAS, some Pokemon kept themselves as threats such as Keldeo. Others just made the first step in ORAS and declared themselves "Top Tier Threats"; Landorus-I, Mega Altaria, Mega Sableye and the infamous Mega Metagross were the most noticeable out of those. On the other hand, other Pokemon took the bullet and dropped heavily in usage and viability. These include Mega Pinsir, Mega Charizard X and Mega Heracross.
With ORAS being released it changed the meta a lot. whether or not the ORAS changes benefited or harmed the metagame is subject to debate, this is something a lot of us may wonder which is the reason of this thread. Essentially, this read will be comparison between both XY and ORAS metaegames with respect to numerous criteria: threats, speed creep, which one is more fun, which one is more balance, what does/did each meta need to become closer to a "perfect tier". These questions are more will be discussed in this thread.
Here is a list of all changes made with the ORAS release:
Bans
Greninja
Salamencite
New Abilities Released
Tyrantrum -Rock Head
Serperior -Contrary
Emboar -Reckless
Samurott -Shell Armor
Feraligatr -Sheer Force
Typhlosion -Flash Fire
Meganium -Leaf Guard
Serperior -Contrary
Emboar -Reckless
Samurott -Shell Armor
Feraligatr -Sheer Force
Typhlosion -Flash Fire
Meganium -Leaf Guard
New Mega Evolution
Mega Beedrill
Typing: Bug/Poison
Ability: Adaptability
Stats: 65/150/40/15/80/145
Mega Pidgeot
Typing: Normal/Flying
Ability: No Guard
Stats: 83/80/80/135/80/121
Mega Slowbro
Typing: Water/Psychic
Ability: Shell Armor
Stats: 95/75/180/130/80/30
Mega Steelix
Typing: Steel/Ground
Ability: Sand Force
Stats: 75/125/230/55/95/30
Mega Sceptile
Typing: Grass/Dragon
Ability: Lightning Rod
Stats: 70/110/75/145/85/145
Mega Swampert
Typing: Water/Ground
Ability: Swift Swim
Stats: 100/150/110/95/110/70
Mega Sableye
Typing: Dark/Ghost
Ability: Magic Bounce
Stats: 50/85/125/85/115/20
Mega Sharpedo
Typing: Water/Dark
Ability: Strong Jaw
Stats: 70/140/70/110/65/105
Mega Camerupt
Typing: Fire/Ground
Ability: Sheer Force
Stats: 70/120/100/145/105/20
Mega Altaria
Typing: Dragon/Fairy
Ability: Pixilate
Stats: 75/110/110/110/105/80
Mega Glalie
Typing: Ice
Ability: Refrigerate
Stats: 80/120/80/120/80/100
Mega Salamence
Typing: Dragon/Flying
Ability: Aerialate
Stats: 95/145/130/120/90/120
Mega Metagross
Typing: Steel/Psychic
Ability: Tough Claws
Stats: 80/145/150/105/110/110
Mega Latias
Typing: Dragon/Psychic
Ability: Levitate
Stats: 80/100/120/140/150/110
Mega Latios
Typing: Dragon/Psychic
Ability: Levitate
Stats: 80/130/100/160/120/110
Mega Lopunny
Typing: Normal/Fighting
Ability: Scrappy
Stats: 65/136/94/54/96/135
Mega Gallade
Typing: Fighting/Psychic
Ability: Inner Focus
Stats: 68/165/95/65/115/110
Mega Audino
Typing: Normal/Fairy
Ability: Healer
Stats: 103/60/126/80/126/50
Mega Diancie
Typing: Rock/Fairy
Ability: Magic Bounce
Stats: 50/160/110/160/110/110
Typing: Bug/Poison
Ability: Adaptability
Stats: 65/150/40/15/80/145
Mega Pidgeot
Typing: Normal/Flying
Ability: No Guard
Stats: 83/80/80/135/80/121
Mega Slowbro
Typing: Water/Psychic
Ability: Shell Armor
Stats: 95/75/180/130/80/30
Mega Steelix
Typing: Steel/Ground
Ability: Sand Force
Stats: 75/125/230/55/95/30
Mega Sceptile
Typing: Grass/Dragon
Ability: Lightning Rod
Stats: 70/110/75/145/85/145
Mega Swampert
Typing: Water/Ground
Ability: Swift Swim
Stats: 100/150/110/95/110/70
Mega Sableye
Typing: Dark/Ghost
Ability: Magic Bounce
Stats: 50/85/125/85/115/20
Mega Sharpedo
Typing: Water/Dark
Ability: Strong Jaw
Stats: 70/140/70/110/65/105
Mega Camerupt
Typing: Fire/Ground
Ability: Sheer Force
Stats: 70/120/100/145/105/20
Mega Altaria
Typing: Dragon/Fairy
Ability: Pixilate
Stats: 75/110/110/110/105/80
Mega Glalie
Typing: Ice
Ability: Refrigerate
Stats: 80/120/80/120/80/100
Typing: Dragon/Flying
Ability: Aerialate
Stats: 95/145/130/120/90/120
Mega Metagross
Typing: Steel/Psychic
Ability: Tough Claws
Stats: 80/145/150/105/110/110
Mega Latias
Typing: Dragon/Psychic
Ability: Levitate
Stats: 80/100/120/140/150/110
Typing: Dragon/Psychic
Ability: Levitate
Stats: 80/130/100/160/120/110
Mega Lopunny
Typing: Normal/Fighting
Ability: Scrappy
Stats: 65/136/94/54/96/135
Mega Gallade
Typing: Fighting/Psychic
Ability: Inner Focus
Stats: 68/165/95/65/115/110
Mega Audino
Typing: Normal/Fairy
Ability: Healer
Stats: 103/60/126/80/126/50
Mega Diancie
Typing: Rock/Fairy
Ability: Magic Bounce
Stats: 50/160/110/160/110/110
Movepool and Items Additions
Items:
Custap Berry
Moves:
Earth Power and Heal Bell Diancie
Gunk Shot and Low Kick Greninja
High Jump Kick Lopunny
Crunch Gyarados
Knock Off, Fire Punch, Ice Punch, Thunder Punch, and Superpower Diggersby
Fire Punch and Thunder Punch Hawlucha
Drain Punch Chesnaught
Synthesis and Foul Play Gourgeist
Earth Power Volcanion
Superpower, Drain Punch, Gunk Shot, Knock Off, Ice Punch, Fire Punch Pangoro
Magnet Rise for Klefki
Huge Power is now compatible with Knock Off and Play Rough for Azumarill
Icicle Crash for Weavile
Custap Berry
Moves:
Earth Power and Heal Bell Diancie
Gunk Shot and Low Kick Greninja
High Jump Kick Lopunny
Crunch Gyarados
Knock Off, Fire Punch, Ice Punch, Thunder Punch, and Superpower Diggersby
Fire Punch and Thunder Punch Hawlucha
Drain Punch Chesnaught
Synthesis and Foul Play Gourgeist
Earth Power Volcanion
Superpower, Drain Punch, Gunk Shot, Knock Off, Ice Punch, Fire Punch Pangoro
Magnet Rise for Klefki
Huge Power is now compatible with Knock Off and Play Rough for Azumarill
Icicle Crash for Weavile
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