I’d consider Tera Blast on that set instead of Flash Cannon. After Tera, it’s STAB and still gives the coverage against Fairy-types that Flash Cannon is meant to provide. It does have the unfortunate downside of not really being able to touch Tinkaton, but when’s the last time you saw someone running Tinkaton with a straight face?
I would go with Fire Blast instead of Flash Cannon to take care of Tinkaton, but since it's UU and I don't know how often you see it on the ladder I might go with Taunt > Flash Cannon. This would prevent your opponent from status on Hydreigon or setting up screens, entry hazard, etc. Dark Pulse + Draco Meteor hits almost everything.
you cannot bait in grounds with glaceon my guy its literally an ice type
I dismissed the idea because the meta doesn’t allow the idea to be valid at this time.
Deadline to submit responses is tonight. I’m at work right now and will be out with IRL stuff until around 11pm GMT-5, but then plan to work on it and already have compiled a good deal of responses. Given the volume (around 4K responses), it may take a bit, so expect it up either at 1-2AM GMT-5 tonight or after whenever I wake up tomorrow morning GMT-5.
Because Healing Wish forces you to lose a mon to maintain a mon you already have, while Revival Blessing makes you gain a mon that you already lost while sacrificing nothing but time.
Jesus. I knew it was going to get a lot of responses since the meta’s new and interest is high, but I didn’t expect that many.
100% disagree by a long shot. Healing Wish is not better than bringing a Pokémon back from the dead. Heal Bell and Aromatherapy heals status (Something Healing Wish / Lunar Dance does). Rest, Wish, Roost, Softboiled, Recover, Milk Drink, Moonlight, and Morning Sun all recover HP from a Pokémon as long as they have 1 HP / Not Fainted (Something Healing Wish / Lunar Dance does). Healing Wish / Lunar Dance has a sacrifice, the user of the move faints in order to heal a Pokémon to full health and cure volatile status. The way you win a Competitive Pokémon 6 v 6 is by having the opponents Pokémon's all faint. Revival Blessing's goes against the grain, something that has never been plausible in competitive Pokémon and probably for good reason. Bringing a Pokémon of choice back from fainting (With status cleared regardless of it being at 50%) is uncompetitive. It's currently a backwards process and I've said this before in conjunction with Sleep Talk and Leppa Berry (where it can be used multiple times in a single match), it's broken and should be banned outright. The one downfall to Revival Blessing is that it's 1 PP, but Sleep Talk and Leppa Berry fix it's one issue.
I really have to doubt you’re having “a ton of success” with non-Boots Volcarona in the current meta. That’s a pretty hefty claim that needs replays to back it up.a fun set I've been having a ton of success with:
Volcarona @ Leftovers
Ability: Flame Body
Tera Type: Fairy
EVs: 252 HP / 80 SpA / 108 SpD / 68 Spe
Calm Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Quiver Dance
- Morning Sun
- Flamethrower
- Giga Drain
I should probably be frantically explaining the lack of timbs
even with gholdengo, good hazard support isn't actually all that hard to come by, hatterene provides excellent anti-hazard measures to the point where its often more than enough to keep hazards off, of course you could always run this set with boots, but I think that leftovers allows for it to function much easier, speaking of which:
this thing sets up on every special attacker in the tier, bar skeledirge for fairly obvious reasons, valiant? setup fodder, gholdengo? trick can be annoying but even when tricked it can check gholdengo all game long, even if it never gets to sweep, chi-yu? you need a free switchin but once you get that its setup fodder without tera fire + specs, pult? setup fodder, iron moth? setup fodder.
tera fairy keeps you safe from sucker punches and garganacl's salt cure, (meaning you actually set up on garganacl) and the speed is invested to outrun banded meowscarada at +1, this set has checks, of course, but I think it is more efficiant than more standard volcarona sets, as it lets it set up on more pokemon including several otherwise dangerous threats. enjoy!
as I mentioned, hatterene basically makes hazards a non-factor in most cases, although if you're really so skeptical, I'd be happy to provide some replays, although it may take a bit as I haven't been saving very many games
TPCI also feels that a 20-minute timer brings a more competitive environment. They wouldn’t know what a properly competitive environment was if it smacked them in the face. I wouldn’t put too much stock in adopting whatever format the VGC Marketing Team thinks will bring in the most viewers.
I dont disagree with this at all. I just wanted to compare the two moves and I think you really articulate why Revival Blessing feels uncompetitive. The cost is almost nonexistent.
How so? Realistically, the only damaging moves it runs are Body Press and Salt Cure. It resists Ghost, sure, but the standard set also can’t really do anything to Ghosts, and there are a lot of good Ghost-types out there right now. Annihilape sets up in its face with a sub it can never break, Dragapult does Dragapult things, Skeledirge boosts up on it and slacks off the residual damage, Gholdengo ratios it with Make It Rain, and I’m sure there’s another one I’m forgetting that does something else to it. There’s also Clodsire, which ignores Iron Defense and resists both of Garganacl’s moves, and Great Tusk, which Garganacl needs to either already be set up or Tera to take on.
the timer is likely so rounds can get finished and large events can be run in a weekend rather than multiple weeks/months. In person events are another beast of their own. However that’s not what I’m trying to discuss. I think open sheets in tournament would allow tera to exist in a way that lead to more competitive games. That has nothing to do with 20 minute timers, so can we stay on topic?
This sort of smogon truther take is the Pokémon equivalent to an American thinking they live in the best country in the world lol. So narrow-minded and lacking in self awareness. If you only know smogon 6v6, don’t try to make sweeping claims about the rest of the world.
