NOC Animal Mafia ~Game Over~

[Prophylaxis]

Hitmonleet was not a major mistake in this game, the Earlio lynch was. Durza slot would always have been a reason for paranoia and it didn't make sense not to finish going through the poe imo

agree with this

FH should have been lynched instead of Earlio on that Day

 

[MoodyCloud]

My gamesolve is that one of FH/Jalmont is mafia and the other has been game throwing

 

[Prophylaxis]

My gamesolve is that one of FH/Jalmont is mafia and the other has been game throwing

lol

this is.. surprisingly accurate

if jalmont is town this game he has.. not cooperated much in endgame, which makes things kind of annoying

 

[MoodyCloud]

unvote vote haruno

I once again propose Haruno as a day 1 policy lynch for similar reasons to our last game, unless someone manages to give me a convincing case as to who they would rather lynch over Haruno. I see no reason why we should allow Haruno to live unless he gives me a good reason why I should believe he won't throw this game.

how do you make this post and then act like you're giving up in lylo ?

 

[MoodyCloud]

I'll try. If I use mechanical reference like I've been doing most of this last game. I think you are probably the last scum. Frankly, mostly by virtue of Jalmont being a 2nd messenger on a scum team and him having apparently targeted his own teammates. Then of course on the play side, there's the fact that you and your slot were basically entirely absent during the time of the game it mattered the most (ie before Whydon revealed KOC had aimed a kill at Texas) and then when you did appear, you had a SR on the two people - and yeah I'll stop that explaining since it's just a rehash of what I said in my ISO. Basically summed down to feeling like you were doing the perfect mafia actions during that point.

Then during this late game part. (ie after Aubisio was lynched) you have been very active and nuanced going about reads and 'leading'. Which of course, is pretty NAI, yet you were a large part in why hitmonleet was lynched, which I still think was a major mistake in this game. Yet despite all of that. Your tone has remained very genuine and as such, is that really something that you would be capable of faking as mafia? Like it's not impossible, but coming off as genuine is pretty damn hard.

Then there's also the kill.

I guess? But yet, if Proph is scum. I don't see why he wouldn't kill Jalmont. Leaving the final three as Proph/epik/Myself and then depend on epik's blind tunneling to get the lynch on me for his win. Like, you hit it right on the nose when you were talking about mind games and this is just painful to think about.

So basically. I kind of do want to just put my vote down on Proph and be done with this whole thing as right now, I am starting to feel some mafia burnout. But there's enough nuance for me to at the same time to just doubt myself and that assumption and have I mentioned I just want this to be over.


Though fair play, let me also say my stance on jalmont. Play wise, from what I can remember pretty weak. A lot of idling and irrationalism from him. Particularly idling in the late game and irrationalism midgame with the two switching at the respective points. But damn, that mechanical side here. Like, does a Jalmont/XX/Aubisio/KOC scum team really decide D2 "Hey, let's have Aubisio pretend to be persuaded and jalmont, you actively deny there's a persuade in the game. This will most certainly help us accomplish ______" like I just can't get that to make a lot of sense in my head.

You list reasons for why Proph being mafia is unlikely and then say you want to put your vote down on them ?

 

[MoodyCloud]

I think I'd have plenty of reasons to push Jalmont but I'd still prob go for FH first if only because redirect makes more sense than messenger on mafia

 

[Prophylaxis]

Very much leaning towards that as well.

Moody, is there anything ITT that clears one of Jalmont/FH based off of scum interactions? That's the easy way to solve this game; find ONE town out of the two then lynch the other

 

[JALMONT]

I want to finish the game live because that gives me an advantage in winning.

an advantage that i apparently really need................

 

[Former]

You list reasons for why Proph being mafia is unlikely and then say you want to put your vote down on them ?

Opposite. I list reasons why I want to vote proph but then list reasons why I'm heistant to do so and why my vote isn't currently on them.

 

[JALMONT]

The last time I was mafia in a NOC was like 4 years ago I think. Although even if it was recent I probably wouldn't bother linking it?

 

[Prophylaxis]

Rip my meta.

OK, doing some homework right now, after that I'll do some hard core rereading and finally maybe get around to the pro/cons list I keep saying I'll do but I never do.

I want to finish the game live because that gives me an advantage in winning.

an advantage that i apparently really need................

why does finishing the game live help you?

also, can you answer Moody's question?

 

[JALMONT]

Why did you quote my post when it answers your question?

I can but I’m not going to.

 

[JALMONT]

Real talk though I am reading through the game. At the moment I’m leaning towards Proph over fh

 

[Prophylaxis]

You want to finish the game live so it gives you an advantage in winning. "Advantage in winning" doesn't really mean anything.

Your obstinateness is annoying, but it makes me think that you might be the town in this scenario? Like, what scum just flat out refuses to answer a question from confirmed town Moody? That's literally suicide as scum, unless you are going level three to my level two.

Real talk though I am reading through the game. At the moment I’m leaning towards Proph over fh

...any reasoning here?

 

[Prophylaxis]

Like, can you tell me why exactly you are suspecting me over FH so we can have a discussion here instead of holding everything close to your chest?

 

[JALMONT]

If “advantage in winning” doesn’t mean anything to you I’m not really sure how I can help you

 

[Prophylaxis]

whatever, i'm here right now

what do you want to do live?

 

[Former]

Like, can you tell me why exactly you are suspecting me over FH so we can have a discussion here instead of holding everything close to your chest?

Backing up wanting to knoe this. Aka what's your thought process for me over proph

 

[Prophylaxis]

????????????

man I'm so confused by Jalmont's play here

> requests live interaction, says that the last scum is a "lose" for them to finish in real time
> when I reach out to him he dips

> doesn't offer any reasoning for his reads here
> refuses to answer moody's question
> has no scum NOC games that I might be able to look back on and check

like, he's been super absent this entire endgame phase despite having a confirmable role, and trying to get content out of him feels like pulling teeth

now when you say that you didn't want him in lylo, FH, I know what you mean

 

[JALMONT]

Sorry that I can’t be available immediately when you are :/

 

[Prophylaxis]

it's fine, i'm just baffled by your endgame process tbh if you're town here

if you want to do real time, tell me when you will be on and i will do my best to accommodate

 

[Former]

it's fine, i'm just baffled by your endgame process tbh if you're town here

if you want to do real time, tell me when you will be on and i will do my best to accommodate

Ftr the like is too say same for the last part

 

[Prophylaxis]

well, invitational just ended if you guys want to see more town meta of mine

 

[Former]

Tfw when that games ends before this one

 

[Former]

Also if you wanr to see my town meta