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Hey all!

It's getting to that time of the release schedule yet again! We now have a dedicated USUM forum for all our future needs regarding these games.

Please use the appropriate tags for this forum, and Spoilers will obviously be allowed in most threads!

We will also be hosting our usual Discovery and TM Location threads (TBA Who these will be run by).

I will be locking up the original USUM Thread soon and moving discussion into this forum!

Thank you all for a great journey up until this point and I hope everyone enjoys Ultra Sun and Ultra Moon!
 
Team Rocket is confirmed to somehow appear in this game. Not sure how but if I had to guess it's either a post game mission or they're just Battle Tree opponents. Man I really wish they got rid of the Battle Tree. That's a LOT of lumber that Alola could export.

Also hoping for new Alolan forms. Particularly an Alolan Butterfree would be one I really want to see, though we've already seen Butterfree in Kantonian form at Alola. But new Alolan forms are something I'd like to have. And a Z-move for Alolan Exeggutor. A guy can dream. I joke that Aloexeggutor's z-move could just be called Break-neck Blitz.

Regardless I am very curious to see what US/UM has to provide. Hopefully a post game. At least we get to see Lillie again. Even if it isn't the same one...
 

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USUM might be good. I'm worried that the Team Rocket thing is only a small hint of too much fan service.

Team Rocket is confirmed to somehow appear in this game. Not sure how but if I had to guess it's either a post game mission or they're just Battle Tree opponents. Man I really wish they got rid of the Battle Tree. That's a LOT of lumber that Alola could export.

Also hoping for new Alolan forms. Particularly an Alolan Butterfree would be one I really want to see, though we've already seen Butterfree in Kantonian form at Alola. But new Alolan forms are something I'd like to have. And a Z-move for Alolan Exeggutor. A guy can dream. I joke that Aloexeggutor's z-move could just be called Break-neck Blitz.

Regardless I am very curious to see what US/UM has to provide. Hopefully a post game. At least we get to see Lillie again. Even if it isn't the same one...
We're likely not getting new forms as they wouldn't reveal them this late I don't believe.
Also, I heard that the lillie cutscenes are literally the same as in sm. Which sucks.
 
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USUM might be good. I'm worried that the Team Rocket thing is only a small hint of too much fan service.


We're likely not getting new forms as they wouldn't reveal them this late I don't believe.
Also, I heard that the lillie cutscenes are literally the same as in sm. Which sucks.
They can't be carbon copies when Lillie has has a Poke Ball in her artwork for this game.

I don't get bothered by fan service anymore. Team Rocket's scary because it's the most realistic threat. They've done some pretty brutal things in the multiple canons throughout the years. Plus, Giovanni is fukken awesome.

No new Alolan forms would suck. Keep in mind that they haven't really revealed Mimikyu's z-move officially yet, so there might be some hope. There's some rumor about a Grass/Poison Pokemon getting an Alolan form. Either that or the Alolan form is Grass/Poison. 'Tis only a rumor, though.

In other news, I have determined that my team will have Decidueye on it again. Probably Mimikyu too. I'm contemplating Kommo-o. Bewear, too. We'll see.
 
As far as I've read, Oddish line was the rumoured new Alolan form. Which would also be 4 new pokemon, and potentially finally a non trash version of Bellossom.

I would really be surprised if they did not expand on Alolan forms: after all there's still a few holes in the USUM Alola dex even counting the entire SM dex + the new UBs + all the Mega-eligible Pokemon.
 
As far as I've read, Oddish line was the rumoured new Alolan form. Which would also be 4 new pokemon, and potentially finally a non trash version of Bellossom.

I would really be surprised if they did not expand on Alolan forms: after all there's still a few holes in the USUM Alola dex even counting the entire SM dex + the new UBs + all the Mega-eligible Pokemon.
I have a feeling only Oddish and Gloom will get Alola forms (pure grass) and that they naturally evolve into Bellossom in Alola.

I'm really hoping for a few new UB's!

Ugh just a few more weeks!!!!
 

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I'm not sure if this sounds lazy or not, but I really hope they decrease the rarity of Bottle Caps, at least slightly. It takes just about a week to even get 30 shards to get one, and fishing also takes a long time. You could try the Festival Plaza method, which is about 1 bottle cap per 10 minutes, but I feel as if the method is too complicated and wasn't intentionally supposed to exist. It also requires you to have a VIP with a certain house, and it just gets very complex.

So, one thing I would do is increase the shards found on Island Aphun. If they increased the shard count to around 8ish, that reduces the amount of time needed to get one bottle cap by about 2-3 days. Another possible solution is to increase the chance of fishing up the bottle caps by around 5%-10%. This would make getting bottle caps not take ten years.

Just a thought.
 
I don't know if I'm the lone ranger on this, but is anyone else just not feeling it with this game so far?

I mean we've gotten some small yet expected things like new Ultra Beasts and super ugly Necrozma forms, and few unexpected ones like Team Rocket but overall the only thing that truly peaked my interest was a Mantine surfing mini-game.

Maybe it is the fact that the marketing campaign started super late so that's why nothing so far has wowed me, but normally I'm super pumped to play a new pokemon game by now and I just feel really burnt out this time. Everything so far has appeared to be a paint-by-the-numbers Pokemon sequel, and I haven't seen much that makes me want to return to Alola again.

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Well, other than this. I will drop $40+ just to surf on a mantine, arceus help me!

Maybe this will be for the best, as if I go in with low expectations they game will have more room to surprise me, and if I'm not foaming at the mouth trying to get any scrap of info about the game maybe I'll finally go into one of these unspoiled again.

Just wondered if anyone else was just feeling "meh" about this so far.
 
One strange thought-

Sun and Moon had different type trainer opponents for every type. Guzma was Bug, Faba was Psychic, Sophocles was Electric, etc.

We didn't really have an Ice type trainer, though. Sina doesn't count for me cause she barely has a full team at all.

Maybe they're saving that slot for Lillie, since she has the outfit for it and in the anime she has an AloVulpix.

I just want to battle Lillie. Some people don't like her- (in my opinion just because they want to dislike something popular- pretty ignorant of me, I know)- but she's my favorite. I'd like to be able to battle her multiple times and see her grow up in battle rather than hoping for the best of her through kanto.
 
One strange thought-

Sun and Moon had different type trainer opponents for every type. Guzma was Bug, Faba was Psychic, Sophocles was Electric, etc.

We didn't really have an Ice type trainer, though. Sina doesn't count for me cause she barely has a full team at all.

Maybe they're saving that slot for Lillie, since she has the outfit for it and in the anime she has an AloVulpix.

I just want to battle Lillie. Some people don't like her- (in my opinion just because they want to dislike something popular- pretty ignorant of me, I know)- but she's my favorite. I'd like to be able to battle her multiple times and see her grow up in battle rather than hoping for the best of her through kanto.
What do you think her team will be? A-Tales, A-Shew, Cloyster, Crabominable, Frosslass, Weavile?
 
A-tales/shlash Froslass and Weavile would definitely be fitting but I have a hard time seeing Crabominable fitting Lilie :P

Lapras and Glaceon, on the other hand...
 

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One strange thought-

Sun and Moon had different type trainer opponents for every type. Guzma was Bug, Faba was Psychic, Sophocles was Electric, etc.

We didn't really have an Ice type trainer, though. Sina doesn't count for me cause she barely has a full team at all.

That might just be Game Freak hating the Ice type as usual, though...


A quick summary of that article: Ice is given the short end of pretty much every stick in the Pokémon games. Not having a type specialist, Icium-Z being the last Z-Crystal you find, its Pokémon being unneccessarily hard to encounter (very late in the game!) and even harder to evolve, is just par for the course.
 

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When is the earliest we can use USUM mons (like Dusk Mane/Dawn Wings, UB Burst/Assembly/Adhesive) on Showdown?
Not a question for this forum and that’s something for the PS devs but i’d imagine when we have stats, movepools, etc for them but who can say with certain accuracy when that’s going to happen so i’ll leave it at that
 
A-tales/shlash Froslass and Weavile would definitely be fitting but I have a hard time seeing Crabominable fitting Lilie :P

Lapras and Glaceon, on the other hand...
Actually, iirc Gladio already has Weavile and Moon Dex says it eats that thing and Alolan Sandshew so I think it's unlikely for her to have it.
 

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I don't know if I'm the lone ranger on this, but is anyone else just not feeling it with this game so far?

I mean we've gotten some small yet expected things like new Ultra Beasts and super ugly Necrozma forms, and few unexpected ones like Team Rocket but overall the only thing that truly peaked my interest was a Mantine surfing mini-game.

Maybe it is the fact that the marketing campaign started super late so that's why nothing so far has wowed me, but normally I'm super pumped to play a new pokemon game by now and I just feel really burnt out this time. Everything so far has appeared to be a paint-by-the-numbers Pokemon sequel, and I haven't seen much that makes me want to return to Alola again.

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Well, other than this. I will drop $40+ just to surf on a mantine, arceus help me!

Maybe this will be for the best, as if I go in with low expectations they game will have more room to surprise me, and if I'm not foaming at the mouth trying to get any scrap of info about the game maybe I'll finally go into one of these unspoiled again.

Just wondered if anyone else was just feeling "meh" about this so far.
No, you're not the only one.

The sheer lack of news until so recently has just astounded me with how stupid it is. The recent news is not enough to convince me otherwise. People have confirmed that the plot line isn't changing all that much, I really doubt that the older gen legendary encounters will be unique/fun at all, Ultra Space is looking overhyped and just really small. The new UBs to me look just downright ridiculous and even then only 3 mons? I'm beginning to get frustrated here.

It's not looking new enough to really be worth it tbh. I doubt that there will be enough new features or shit. In general, I just really hate how they're continuing in this direction that they've been on since Gen 6. It's a real shame because for what might have to be my last mons game, it's looking to be a real disappointment.
 
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