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The idea of this project is to collect some of the most common top-tier threats in the PU metagame and discover Pokémon that can either check or counter them!

Every week I will nominate a Pokémon. You will nominate a Pokémon to either check or counter the Victim.
Submissions will close and voting will open after 4 days (Sunday - Wednesday). You will vote for 2 checks and 2 counters over the remaining 3 days (Thursday - Saturday).
The results will be archived and the process will continue next week.

1. Follow the definitions for checks and counters in The Smog issue #32.

2. All Pokemon submitted must be ranked on the USUM PU Viability Rankings.

3. This one I cannot stress enough but, no Bronzor nominations. Bronzor just beats the victim in question most times 1v1 and I just don't want to see a race to who can submit it first! Creativity is what I want. If I see that someone is submitting or reserving it, I will have it deleted!

4. We require an explanation and set for the Pokemon that you posted. We're not asking for a thesis; a paragraph is sufficient. One sentence will NOT get the job done.

5. We allow reservation of Pokemon in this thread. However, please write up your post within 24 hours of the reservation. This is to ensure that the project doesn't become a race of who gets to reserve the best check / counter first. After 24 hours has elapsed and you still have not typed it out, your reservation will be nullified.

6. Different sets of the same Pokemon can be nominated. For example, person a) can nominate Choice Specs Mesprit as a check to something, while person b) can nominate Defensive Mespirit as a counter to the same thing in the same week.

7. Help people out if you think they're wrong, but please be nice.

8. Post calcs if not obvious.

9. Have fun!


Bronzor
Focus Sash for an item


Checks and counters are ordered voted 1st to voted 3rd. A slash indicates a tie for a given spot.
Week 1: Lilligant
Checks:
SergioRules's Primeape,
clefi's Oricorio-Baile,
LordST's Rapidash
Counters:
poh's Drampa,
InfernoMonferno's Guzzlord,
yogi's Munchlax


Week 2:Archeops
Checks:
Twix's Piloswine,
LordST's Lycanroc,
PTF's Floatzel /
Yoshiblaze's Palossand

Counters:
poh's Regirock,
Akir's Carracosta,
Aaronboyer's Gastrodon /
yogi's Solrock


Week 3:Pyroar

Checks:
KyrieLillard's Lanturn,
SergioRules's Lycanroc,
ChrystalFalchion's Archeops /
LzzzR's Magmortar

Counters:
yogi's Munchlax,
poh's Regirock


Week 4:Alolan Raichu

Checks:
dibs's Skuntank,
Skankovich's Alolan Raticate,
allstarapology's Alolan Dugtrio

Counters:
Twix's Palossand,
ChrystalFalchion's Gastrodon,
Kill The Lights' Mudsdale


Week 5: Gurdurr

Checks:
love chants's Swanna,
allstarapology's Oricorio-Sensu

Counters:
dibs's Oricorio-Pom-Pom,
SergioRules's Musharna,
Baguette Syndrome's Qwilfish


Week 6: Jynx

Checks:
LordST's Togedemaru,
Baguette Syndrome's Lycanroc,
Eclipse's Type Null

Counters:
UberSkitty's Klang,
allstarapology's Metang,
MadMax123's Kecleon


Week 7:Carracosta

Checks:
love chants's Lilligant,
MadMax123's Floatzel

Counters:
allstarapology's Gastrodon,
ChrystalFalchion's Tangela


Week 8:BD Zangoose

Checks:
poh's Gurdurr,
allstarapology's Haunter,
Baguette Syndrome's Gourgeist-XL
Counters:
ChrystalFalchion's Pyukumuku,
Ping_Pong_Along's Sableye


Week 9: Abomasnow

Checks:
Cofaiclus's Magmortar,
allstarapology's Eelektross,
ChrystalFalchion's Articuno
Counters:
Baguette Syndrome's Miltank,
LzzzR's Hitmonchan,
poh's Bronzor


Week 10:CM Spiritomb

Counters:
Graceclaw's Stoutland,
allstarapology's CM Clefairy,
Baguette Syndrome's Alolan Raticate


Week 11: Aurorus

Checks:
Taskr's Alolan Sandslash /
Darkinium's Floatzel,
Ktütverde's Hitmonchan,
BigBootyAnimal's Primeape
Counters:
allstarapology's Munchlax,
Jmash324's Bronzor,
Darkfire47's AV Regice


Week 12:
Oricorio-Sensu


Checks:Taskr's Oricorio-Pom-Pom, tondas's Aurorus, Jmash324's Floatzel

Counters: Conni's Eelektross, Dr N Gin's AV Spiritomb / ItsxLegendz's Lanturn


Week 13:
Skuntank

Checks:
Jmash324's Aggron /
Darkinium's Pinsir

Counters:
Conni's Gastrodon /
Tack :]'s Carracosta /
Abejas's Gurdurr,
ItsxLegendz's Mawile /
Dr N Gin's Mudsdale


Week 14:
118006
Eelektross

Checks:
118010
Darkinium's Zangoose,
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HydraOfLight1255's Kecleon,
118013
Graceclaw's Torterra

Counters:
118007
Taskr's Turtonator,
118008
Jmash324's Alolan Exeggutor /
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Conni's Drampa

Week 15:
Kangaskhan

Checks:
tondas's Carracosta,
Darkfire47's Gourgeist-Small /
curiosity's Fightinium Z Kangaskhan,
Jmash324's Gurdurr /
ArtistSmeargle1991's Primeape

Counters:
Taskr's Wormadam-Trash /
HydraOfLight1255's Ferroseed,
ItsxLegendz's Metang,
Dr N Gin's Bronzor

Week 16:
Ferroseed


Counters:
Taskr's Lurantis,
Akir's Drampa,
Charles A. Theist's Victreebel

Week 17:
Pyroar (V2)

Checks:
allstarapology's Choice Scarf Kabutops /
Toy Time King's Lanturn,
HydraOfLight1255's Primeape /
ArtistSmeargle1991's Hitmonchan

Counters:
Jmash324's Regirock,
Darkinium's Carbink,
Mango Smoothie's Type: Null

Week 18:
Swanna

Checks:
fanyfan's Lycanroc /
Amphareixon's Togedemaru,
ArtistSmeargle1991's Alolan Raichu /
Jmash324's Articuno

Counters:
allstarapology's Lanturn,
Yoshiblaze's Eelektross,
Mango Smoothie's Cradily

Week 19:
124860
Zangoose


Checks:
Jmash324's Oricorio-Sensu,
Toy Time King's Choice Scarf Kabutops /
Darkinium's Lycanroc,
Kilima's Haunter

Counters:
lockjaw's Spiritomb,
Yoshiblaze's Sableye,
Amphareixon's Gourgeist-XL

Week 20:
Kingler

Checks:
pilz0311's Swanna,
lockjaw's Lurantis,
Taskr's Silvally-Dragon
Counters:
Jmash324's Tangela,
Mango Smoothie's Gourgeist XL /
TJ's Pyukumuku

Week 21:
Mesprit

Checks:
pilz0311's Togedemaru /
Akir's Oricorio-Sensu,
Darkinium's Aurorus

Counters:
HydraOfLight1255's Skuntank,
TJ's Munchlax,
Mango Smoothie's Spiritomb /
uhuhuhu7's Metang /
fanyfan's Type: Null

Week 22:
Clefairy

Checks:
Amphareixon's Alolan Dugtrio /
pilz0311's Haunter,
Darkinium's Kingler

Counters:
HydraOfLight1255's Aggron,
tondas's Skuntank,
Mango Smoothie's Togedemaru /
Jmash324's Victreebel

Week 23:
Scyther


Checks:
tondas's Lycanroc /
Mango Smoothie's Aurorus,
Akir's Pyroar /
BackAtYouBro's Weezing

Counters:
Inferno Monferno's Oricorio-Pom-Pom,
Oathkeepre's Regirock,
Jmash324's Aggron

Week 24:
Dodrio

Checks
:
TJ's Lycanroc /
Oathkeepre's Togedemaru,
Musharnanigans's Stunfisk,
allstarapology's Kabutops

Counters:
Jmash324's Carbink

Week 25:
Choice Specs Jellicent

Checks:
zoowi's Articuno,
MaroGod's Water Absorb Quagsire,
Jmash324's Cradily

Week 26:
143204
Omastar

Checks:
Oathkeepre's Ludicolo,
pogofish's Manectric,
Darkinium's Togedemaru

Week 27:
144332
Lycanroc

Checks:
StickingGum's Alolan Persian,
pogofish's Floatzel,
Toy Time King's Kabutops

Counters:
Jmash324's Mudsdale /
tondas's Gurdurr,
Oathkeepre's Quagsire,
InoriIzumi's Poliwrath

Week 28:
Qwilfish

Checks:
InoriIzumi's Rotom-Frost,
Jmash324's Skuntank,
Toy Time King's Mesprit

Counters:
tondas's Natu

Week 29:
146536
Froslass


Checks:
Oathkeepre's Lycanroc,
InoriIzumi's Togedemaru /
Darkinium's Combusken

Counters:
Ktütverde's Stoutland /
BackAtYouBro's Skuntank,
Jmash324's Eelektross,
pogofish's Simisear /
Sir Pin's Alolan Persian

Week 30:
147411
Stoutland

Checks:
Abejas's Gurdurr,
Darkinium's Lycanroc,
Toy Time King's Primeape

Counters:
PILZ's Regirock,
Jmash324's Metang,
StickingGum's Bronzor

Week 31:
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Mudsdale

Checks:
BackAtYouBro's Aurorus /
Darkinium's Jellicent,
Guwahavel's Rotom-Frost

Counters:
Oathkeepre's Leafeon,
tlenit1's Natu,
Jmash324's Weezing

Week 32:
Alolan Exeggutor

Checks:
Jmash324's Crabominable,
Oathkeepre's Articuno,
BackAtYouBro's Alolan Sandslash


Counters:
Darkinium's Type: Null,
Guwahavel's Clefairy,
Sir Pin's Muk

Week 33:
Aggron


Checks:
StickingGum's Mudsdale,
Oathkeepre's Gurdurr,
BackAtYouBro's Claydol

Counters:
Guwahavel's Quagsire,
tlenit1's Bronzor,
Jmash324's Poliwrath
 
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Week 34:
AV Lanturn

Checks:
StickingGum's Bulky Lanturn,
Toy Time King's Lilligant

Counters:
Specs Jigglypuff's Roselia,
Jmash324's Eelektross

Week 35:
Rotom-Frost

Checks:
j0gurt's Combusken,
Oathkeepre's Eelektross

Counters:
StickingGum's Lanturn,
uhuhuhu7's Clefairy

Week 36:
Bellossom

Checks:
Toy Time King's Simisear,
Oathkeepre's Flyinium Dodrio

Counters:
Jmash324's Sensu,
StickingGum's Pom Pom

Week 37:
Alolan Persian

Checks:
PhantomHurious's Lilligant,
StickingGum's Primeape

Counters:
Mirbro's Poliwrath,
Toy Time King's Clefairy

Week 38:
Me First Pinsir

Checks:
BackAtYouBro's Murkrow,
Oathkeepre's Kabutops

Counters:
StickingGum's Quagsire,
PTF's Regirock

Week 39:
Simisear

Checks:
j0gurt's Lycanroc,
StickingGum's Pyukumuku,
Toy Time King's Lanturn

Counters:
Mehdiocre's Muk

Week 40:
Alolan Sandslash

Checks:
Mirbro's Primeape,
Katy's Hitmonchan,
KellyKafka's Manectric

Counters:
Gum's Gurdurr,
jonago's Poliwrath

Week 41:
Drampa

Checks:
Oathkeepre's Mr. Mime,
Gum's Aurorus

Counter:
jonago's Carbink


Jmash324 - 22
Oathkeepre - 16
Gum - 12
Darkinium - 11
Toy Time King - 10
allstarapology - 6
Mango Smoothie - 6
Taskr - 6
tondas - 6
BackAtYouBro - 6
Akir - 4
Amphareixon - 3
Conni - 3
Dr N Gin - 3
Guwahavel - 3
InoriIzumi - 3
ItsxLegendz - 3
j0gurt - 3
pilz0311 - 3
pogofish - 3
poh - 3
TJ - 3
Abejas - 2
ArtistSmeargle1991 - 2
Baguette Syndrome - 2
Darkfire47 - 2
dibs - 2
fanyfan - 2
Graceclaw - 2
jonago - 2
Ktütverde - 2
lockjaw - 2
love chants - 2
Mirbro - 2
PhantomHurious - 2
Sir Pin - 2
tlenit1 - 2
Twix - 2
uhuhuhu7 - 2
Yoshiblaze - 2
ArtistSmeargle1991 - 1
BigBootyAnimal - 1
Charles A. Theist - 1
ChrystalFalchion - 1
Cofaiclus - 1
curiosity - 1
Inferno Monferno - 1
Katy - 1
KellyKafka - 1
Kilima - 1
KyrieLillard - 1
LordST - 1
MaroGod - 1
Musharnanigans - 1
PILZ - 1
PTF - 1
SergioRules - 1
Specs Jigglypuff - 1
Tack :] - 1
UberSkitty - 1
yogi - 1
zoowi - 1


Top Assassins

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1-1:
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Lilligant
Checks
:
Scarf Dodrio,
Specs Drampa,
Eviolite Roselia
Counters:
Offensive CM Flyinium Oricorio Sensu,
AV Bouffalant,
??? Sableye
Honorable Mentions:
Oricorio Pom Pom,
Alolaslash,
Crabominable

1-2:
Stoutland
Checks:
Guts Eviolite Gurdurr,
Scarf Primeape
Counters:
Regenerator Eviolite Tangela,
Physically Bulky Carbink
Honorable Mentions:
Gourgeist-Super

1-3:
Raichu-Alola
Checks:
Scarf Skuntank,
AV Skuntank
Counters:
Offensive Trick Room Exeggutor-Kanto,
Specially Bulky Eviolite Type:Null
Honorable Mentions:
Kangaskhan,
Absol,
Scyther

1-4:
Primeape
Checks:
Offensive Support Silvally Ghost,
Scarf Swanna
Counters:
Rocky Helmet Sableye,
Physically Bulky Eviolite Tangela
Honorable Mentions:
Jellicent,
Mudsdale,
Quagsire

1-5:
/
/
Omastar
Checks:
Scarf Primeape,
Scarf Manectric
Counters:
Unaware Pyukumuku,
AV Ludicolo
Honorable Mentions:
Lanturn,
Crabominable,
Silvally Water

1-6:
Dodrio
Checks:
Life Orb Carracosta,
SpDef Sandslash Alola
Counters:
Leftovers Regirock,
Physically Bulky Stunfisk,
Physically Bulky Mawile
Honorable Mentions:
Aggron,
Quagsire,
Kabutops

1-7:
Guzz
lord
Checks:
Offensive Articuno,
Specs Aurorus,
Bulky Granbull
Counters:
AV Hitmonchan,
Offensive Support Silvally Fairy
Honorable Mentions:
Drampa,
Silvally Dragon

1-8:
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Skuntank
Checks:
Shell Smash Omastar,
SubToxic Dugtrio Alola
Counters:
Berry Mudsdale,
Curse Quagsire
Honorable Mentions:
Guzzlord,
Stoutland,
Aurorus

1-9:
Eelektross
Checks:
Banded Stoutland,
Lycanium Lycanroc,
Phys.Wallbreaker Silvally Dragon,
2x Priority Kangaskhan
Counters:
Dragonium Guzzlord,
SpDef Tank Audino
Honorable Mentions:
Crabominable,
Kecleon,
Turtonator

1-10:
Gurdurr
Checks:
Bulky Flyinium Oricorio Sensu,
Parting Shot Support Silvally Fairy
Counters:
Flyinium Oricorio Pom Pom,
Grassium Z Victreebel,
Bulky Rocky Helmet Qwilfish
Honorable Mentions:
Sableye,
Quagsire,
Tangela

2-1:
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Sandslash-Alola (UNDER HAIL)
Checks:
Specs Poliwrath,
LO Hitmonchan
Counters:
Unaware Quagsire,
Phys.Def Guts Gurdurr
Honorable Mentions:
Froslass,
Jellicent,
Crabominable


2-2:
Victreebel (UNDER SUN)
Checks:
Scarf Dodrio,
AV Eelektross
Counters:
Curse Muk,
AV Guzzlord
Honorable mentions:
Pom Pom,
Silvally Dragon


2-3:
Oricorio Pom Pom (at +2 SpA, +2 SpD)
Checks:
Lycanium Lycanroc,
Bulky Regirock
Counters:
SpDef Tank Type:Null,
Bulky Pivot Lanturn
Honorable mentions: None


2-4:
Crabominbale (in Trick Room)
Checks:
Focus Sash Kababra,
Bulky Attacker Gurdurr

Counters:
Physically Defensive Musharna

Honorable mentions: None


2-5:
Qwilfish
/
(in the rain)
Checks:
Scarf Abomasnow,
Scarf Aurorus
Counters:
Utility Jellicent,
Phys.Def. Gastrodon
Honorable mentions: None


2-6:
Simisear
(at +2 SpAtk)

Checks:
SubToxic Dugtrio-A,
Scarf Kabutops

Counters:
AV Lanturn,
SpDef Carbink

Honorable mentions:
Primeape, Silvally Dragon


2-7:
Kangaskhan
(no Unaware mons available)

Checks:
Choice Scarf Primeape,
Curse RestTalk Regirock

Counters:
Defensive Pivot Tangela,
Bulky Attacker Gurdurr

Honorable mentions:
Metang,
Musharna


2-8:
Musharna
(at +1 SpA, +1 SpD)

Checks:
Swords Dance Scyther,
Flame Orb Drifblim

Counters:
Stealth Rock Metang,
Specially Defensive Sandslash-Alola

Honorable mentions:
Skuntank,
Lycanroc


2-9:
Carracosta
(at +2 Atk, +2 SpA, +2 Spe)

Checks:
Choice Scarf Manectric,
All-out Attacker Simisage

Counters:
PhysDef Unaware Quagsire,
PhysDef Pivot Tangela

Honorable mentions:
Alolan Raichu


2-10:
Throh
(behind a Substitute)

Checks:
Offensive CM Oricorio-Sensu,
Swords Dance Dodrio
Counters:
Calm Mind Musharna,
Fast Attacker Jumpluff,
Swords Dance Scyther
Honorable mentions: None


3-1:
Froslass
Checks:
Scarf Sandslash-A,
Bulky Pivot Persian-A
Counters:
AV Eelektross,
Scarf Aurorus
Honorable mentions:
Stoutland,
Ferroseed,
Combusken


3-2:
Silvally-Fairy
Checks:
Scarf Haunter,
Shell Smash Carracosta
Counters:
Defensive Qwilfish,
Band Aggron
Honorable mentions:
Regirock,
Mudsdale,
Jellicent


3-3:
Turtonator
Checks:
Lycanium Lycanroc,
Scarf Skuntank

Counters:
SpDef Carbink,
SpDef Pyukumuku

Honorable mentions:
Aurorus,
Silvally-Dragon


3-4:
Combusken
Checks:
Stealth Rock Mudsdale,
Bulky Attacker Gurdurr

Counters:
Utility Jellicent,
Defensive Qwilfish,
Scarf Swanna

Honorable mentions:
Musharna,
Gastrodon


3-5:
Torterra
Checks:
Scarf Abomansow,
CM Oricorio Pom Pom

Counters:
Defog Lurantis,
Defensive Pivot Tangela

Honorable mentions:
Oricorio SensuAurorus
Combusken


3-6:
Oricorio Sensu
Checks:
Scarf Aurorus,
Scarf Skuntank

Counters:
SpDef Cryogonal,
Defensive Regirock

Honorable mentions: N/A
 
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Guzzlord @ Choice Specs
Ability: Beast Boost
EVs: 252 SpA / 184 SpD / 72 Spe
Modest Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Draco Meteor
- Dark Pulse
- Fire Blast
- Sludge Bomb


This guzzlord set eats +1 life orb giga drains for days and it ohkos after 1 life orb hit. Guzzlord is a counter.

+1 252 SpA Life Orb Lilligant Giga Drain vs. 0 HP / 196 SpD Guzzlord: 131-155 (22.3 - 26.4%) -- 12.7% chance to 4HKO
252+ SpA Choice Specs Guzzlord Fire Blast vs. +1 0 HP / 4 SpD Lilligant: 272-322 (96.7 - 114.5%) -- 81.3% chance to OHKO - OHKO after Life Orb damage
 
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Okay so the first Victim is Quiver Dance Lilligant!



Lilligant (F) @ Life Orb
Ability: Chlorophyll
EVs: 4 Def / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Quiver Dance
- Sleep Powder
- Giga Drain
- Hidden Power [Fire]

Lilligant makes for a potent set-up sweeper with moves like Quiver Dance and Sleep Powder that can make it difficult to beat.
Tell me some ways to Check or Counter this Pokemon!
 
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Drampa @ Leftovers
Ability: Sap Sipper
EVs: 248 HP / 252 Def / 8 SpA
Bold Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Roost
- Calm Mind
- Dragon Pulse
- Fire Blast

Lilligant can't touch Drampa at all and Drampa clicks Fire Blast or starts setting up on it.
 
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Primeape @ Choice Scarf
Ability: Vital Spirit
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature
- Close Combat
- U-turn
- Gunk Shot
- Stone Edge

Primeape functions as an offensive check to Lilligant. Being able to outspeed Lilligant at +1 means that Primeape can switch into either a Quiver Dance or Sleep Powder (if running Vital Spirit) and OHKO Lilligant with Gunk Shot, though it does have to worry about switching into a Giga Drain as it does 70-80% and also missing Gunk Shot.
 
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Charizard @ Normalium Z
Ability: Blaze
EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Celebrate
- Roost
- Fire Blast
- Focus Blast

ye ye zard is an offensive counter to any Lilligant set without Z Hyper Beam or Hidden Power Rock. It can easily set up on Lilligant with Z Celebrate, and can Roost pretty freely. The only thing Lilligant can do is put it to sleep, and even with that it still can't even do anything to it. Standard Lilligant really has no way to hit Charizard and becomes setup fodder to it.
 
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Exeggutor-Alola @ Dragonium Z / Life Orb
Ability: Frisk
EVs: 248 HP / 252 SpA / 8 SpD
IVs: 0 Spe
Quiet Nature
- Trick Room
- Draco Meteor
- Giga Drain
- Flamethrower
Specs Exeggutor-A also works but I chose this because its slightly bulkier. Exeggutor-A is immune to Sleep Powder, will take nothing from Giga Drain and a +1 Hidden Power Fire is not likely to 2HKO even after Stealth Rocks, you can just set Trick Room or OHKO it with Devastating Drake, if Life Orb is used you need some Rocks damage to ensure Draco Meteor is a OHKO, but its like almost always after Life Orb recoil. If Lilligant even tries to set up multiples on Exeggutor-A it will still beat it since Flamethrower into Draco Meteor will KO Lilligant after some Life Orb recoil / Stealth Rock, and Lilligant would need to get to +5 to at least have a low chance to OHKO Exeggutor-A without Rocks. And that's why Exeggutor-A is a good check to Lilligant.
+1 252 SpA Life Orb Lilligant Hidden Power Fire vs. 212 HP / 4 SpD Exeggutor-Alola: 143-169 (37.2 - 44%) -- guaranteed 3HKO
+2 252 SpA Life Orb Lilligant Hidden Power Fire vs. 212 HP / 4 SpD Exeggutor-Alola: 191-225 (49.7 - 58.5%) -- 98.8% chance to 2HKO
+3 252 SpA Life Orb Lilligant Hidden Power Fire vs. 212 HP / 4 SpD Exeggutor-Alola: 238-281 (61.9 - 73.1%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

252+ SpA Exeggutor-Alola Devastating Drake (195 BP) vs. +1 0 HP / 4 SpD Lilligant: 288-339 (102.4 - 120.6%) -- guaranteed OHKO
252+ SpA Life Orb Exeggutor-Alola Flamethrower vs. +1 0 HP / 4 SpD Lilligant: 231-273 (82.2 - 97.1%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
252+ SpA Exeggutor-Alola Flamethrower vs. +1 0 HP / 4 SpD Lilligant: 178-210 (63.3 - 74.7%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
252+ SpA Exeggutor-Alola Flamethrower vs. +2 0 HP / 4 SpD Lilligant: 134-158 (47.6 - 56.2%) -- 80.1% chance to 2HKO
252+ SpA Exeggutor-Alola Flamethrower vs. +3 0 HP / 4 SpD Lilligant: 108-128 (38.4 - 45.5%) -- guaranteed 3HKO
 
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Turtonator @ White Herb
Ability: Shell Armor
EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Fire Blast
- Draco Meteor
- Dragon Pulse
- Shell Smash

Hard Check / Counter
Turt takes absolutely nothing from even boosted Drain or HP Fire, can set up on Lilli, and proceed to eventually kill it with Fire Blasts. All Lilligant can really do is put Turt to sleep, start spamming QD and hoped it spammed enough times that it eats a Fire Blast and repeats the process until Drain kills it (which is doesn't even kill at +6 After rocks), however, this requires a ton of luck (actually hitting Sleep Powder multiple times, possible Fire Blast missses, Sleep turns), making Turt a great hard check if not counter.

Calcs:
252 SpA Life Orb Lilligant Giga Drain vs. 0 HP / 4 SpD Turtonator: 40-48 (15.3 - 18.3%) -- guaranteed 5HKO after Stealth Rock
+1 252 SpA Life Orb Lilligant Giga Drain vs. 0 HP / 4 SpD Turtonator: 60-71 (22.9 - 27.2%) -- 55.1% chance to 3HKO after Stealth Rock
+2 252 SpA Life Orb Lilligant Giga Drain vs. 0 HP / 4 SpD Turtonator: 81-95 (31 - 36.3%) -- guaranteed 3HKO after Stealth Rock

252 SpA Turtonator Fire Blast vs. 0 HP / 4 SpD Lilligant: 356-420 (126.6 - 149.4%) -- guaranteed OHKO
252 SpA Turtonator Fire Blast vs. +1 0 HP / 4 SpD Lilligant: 236-282 (83.9 - 100.3%) -- 6.3% chance to OHKO
252 SpA Turtonator Fire Blast vs. +2 0 HP / 4 SpD Lilligant: 180-212 (64 - 75.4%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
+2 252 SpA Turtonator Fire Blast vs. +1 0 HP / 4 SpD Lilligant: 474-560 (168.6 - 199.2%) -- guaranteed OHKO
 
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Munchlax @ Eviolite
Ability: Thick Fat
EVs: 4 Atk / 252 Def / 252 SpD
Careful Nature
- Body Slam
- Curse / Toxic
- Sleep Talk
- Rest

Due to how bulky Munchlax is, it takes almost zero damage from any of Lilligant's best attacks, even when boosted. It can retort by using something like Sleep Talk on a predicted Sleep Powder or just by Body Slamming it or Toxicing it in general. Probably one of the best Checks or even Counters available and no I don't have a boner for this mon.
 
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Magmortar @ Assault Vest
Ability: Vital Spirit
EVs: 252 HP / 252 SpA / 4 SpD
Modest Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Fire Blast
- Thunderbolt
- Hidden Power [Grass]
- Focus Blast

Hard Counter
Magmortar takes almost nothing form hp fire or giga drain, can't be put to sleep, and fires off a powerful fire blast back. At the end of the day there is nothing Lilligant can do outside of switching out and letting something catch a fire blast. Due to it's ability to tank any hit from Lili easily, and the fact it can't be put to sleep, I'd say Magmortar isn't just a counter, it's a hard counter.


Calcs:
252 SpA Life Orb Lilligant Giga Drain vs. 252 HP / 0 SpD Assault Vest Magmortar: 49-58 (13.8 - 16.3%) -- possible 5HKO after Stealth Rock
+1 252 SpA Life Orb Lilligant Giga Drain vs. 252 HP / 0 SpD Assault Vest Magmortar: 74-87 (20.9 - 24.5%) -- guaranteed 4HKO after Stealth Rock
+2 252 SpA Life Orb Lilligant Giga Drain vs. 252 HP / 0 SpD Assault Vest Magmortar: 99-117 (27.9 - 33%) -- guaranteed 3HKO after Stealth Rock

252+ SpA Magmortar Fire Blast vs. 0 HP / 4 SpD Lilligant: 486-572 (172.9 - 203.5%) -- guaranteed OHKO
252+ SpA Magmortar Fire Blast vs. +1 0 HP / 4 SpD Lilligant: 324-384 (115.3 - 136.6%) -- guaranteed OHKO
252+ SpA Magmortar Fire Blast vs. +2 0 HP / 4 SpD Lilligant: 242-288 (86.1 - 102.4%) -- 18.8% chance to OHKO
252+ SpA Magmortar Fire Blast vs. +3 0 HP / 4 SpD Lilligant: 194-230 (69 - 81.8%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
 
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Oricorio @ Flyinium Z
Ability: Dancer
EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
- Calm Mind
- Hurricane
- Revelation Dance
- U-turn/Roost
pretty simple set it counters lilligant and threatens it out with unboosted stab hurricanes. edit: forgot it had ability dancer which when lilligant quiver dances oricorio gets free boost
calcs: 252 SpA Oricorio-Fire Hurricane vs. +1 0 HP / 4 SpD Lilligant: 252-296 (89.6 - 105.3%) -- 37.5% chance to OHKO
252 SpA Oricorio-Fire Hurricane vs. 0 HP / 4 SpD Lilligant: 372-440 (132.3 - 156.5%) -- guaranteed OHKO
I don't show lilligant calcs because it can't touch it no matter how many boost it get even with sleep powder. roost helps against sleep powder antics and is a good recover option for oricorio as well.
 
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Oricorio @ Flyinium Z
Ability: Dancer
EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
- Calm Mind
- Hurricane
- Revelation Dance
- U-turn/Roost
pretty simple set it counters lilligant and threatens it out with unboosted stab hurricanes.
calcs: 252 SpA Oricorio-Fire Hurricane vs. +1 0 HP / 4 SpD Lilligant: 252-296 (89.6 - 105.3%) -- 37.5% chance to OHKO
252 SpA Oricorio-Fire Hurricane vs. 0 HP / 4 SpD Lilligant: 372-440 (132.3 - 156.5%) -- guaranteed OHKO
I don't show lilligant calcs because it can't touch it no matter how many boost it get even with sleep powder. roost helps against sleep powder antics and is a good recover option for oricorio as well.
I'd just like to point out that Oricorio has Dancer, if Lilligant uses Quiver Dancer, it's just helping Oricorio and its never being faster or doing more damage to it if you switch in directly
 

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Rapidash @ Safety Goggles
Ability: Flash Fire
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 Def / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature
- Morning Sun
- Will-O-Wisp
- Flare Blitz
- Low Kick/ Wild Charge
Offensive Check

This is more or less a meme check but it can still get the job done as its the only fire type with a natural recovery move that isn't 4x weak to rocks meaning it can more easily continually switch into Lilligant throughout a battle. Rapidash with Safety Goggles equipped easily switches into any Lilligant with the exception of Z Hyper Beam and still maintain offensive pressure. Rapidash also has a couple of other cute properties outside of checking Lilligant. Thanks to Flash Fire it can force predictions against a choice locked Charizard or Pyroar as well as check scary Ice types like Abomasnow very well. Wisp also provides great utility in preventing mons like SD Lycanroc from setting up and crippling Sucker Punch users like Absol and Skuntank. Wild Charge hits water types and Charizard while Low Kick hits Piloswine and the two Dragons.
 
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Type: Null @ Eviolite
Ability: Battle Armor
EVs: 252 HP / 56 Def / 200 SpD
Careful Nature
- Rest
- Sleep Talk
- Return
- Swords Dance

Null can come in freely on a sleep powder due to sleep talk or on a quiver dance.

+1 252 SpA Life Orb Lilligant Giga Drain vs. 252 HP / 200+ SpD Eviolite Type: Null: 110-133 (27.9 - 33.7%) -- 0.2% chance to 3HKO

0 Atk Type: Null Return vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Lilligant: 135-159 (48 - 56.5%) -- 85.9% chance to 2HKO

+2 0 Atk Type: Null Return vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Lilligant: 267-315 (95 - 112%) -- 68.8% chance to OHKO

Null is a check because it can lose 1v1 to lilligant depending on sleep talk rolls. If null comes in already asleep it has a much better chance of winning.
 

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Checks: Rapidash (mainly because that set is fire, literally) and Type-Null (even though I'd actually consider this more a counter, but solid suggestion)

Counters: Drampa (this is one of the best offensive checks to Lilligant in the tier currently) and Guzzlord (mainly because Magmortar struggles against a +1 Z-Hyper Beam and Guzzlord doesn't)
 
Okay voting is done!
here are the winners:

Checks:
Primeape (SergioRules),
Oricorio (clefi),
Rapidash (LordST)

Counters:
Drampa (PursuitOfHappiny),
Guzzlord (InfernoMonferno),
Munchlax (Rwby)

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Archeops
Ability: Defeatist
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 Def / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature
- Acrobatics
- Roost
- Taunt
- Earthquake

Archeops is one of the top tier threats in PU. Base 140 Attack combined with STAB Acrobatics and utility moves like Taunt and Roost can make Archeops a hard Pokemon to Check and Counter.
 

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really good check

Piloswine @ Eviolite
Ability: Thick Fat
EVs: 240 HP / 252 Atk / 16 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Ice Shard
- Icicle Crash
- Earthquake
- Stealth Rock

basically pilo can either instantly put archeops in defeatist range with ice shard, OHKO it with icicle crash, or get up rocks. best thing archeops can do is 3hko it if it's not in defeatist

252+ Atk Piloswine Ice Shard vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Archeops: 170-204 (58.4 - 70.1%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
252+ Atk Piloswine Icicle Crash vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Archeops: 362-428 (124.3 - 147%) -- guaranteed OHKO

252 Atk Archeops Acrobatics (110 BP) vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Eviolite Piloswine: 153-181 (37.8 - 44.8%) -- guaranteed 3HKO
 
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