Deleted User 350996
Banned deucer.
After some ladder, I've realized how strong hail team are, especially the famous core Sandslash-Alola (Aurora Veil) + Aurorus (Hail setter); basically, this strategy allows you to set up anything you want as long it has a minimal bulk.
Unless Sandslash-A returns to NU after the next tier shift, it should be suspected since it's the only viable user of Aurora Veil (nb: Articuno and Delibird can set it too, but let's be honest, they sucks right now), because it's way centralizing in my opinion for some reasons:
- If you mind to Defog in order to remove Aurora Veil, well, good luck ! Almost all the defoggers we have are particularly weak to Ice typing. Skuntank, Lumineon and Prinplup are the exceptions but Lumi' and Prinplup are kinda passive against Hail and furthermore, they don't have any reliable recovery. It's true that Skuntank can run (Z-)Fire Blast to nuke Sandslash-A, but SandSlash-A is in anyway faster under the Hail, Skuntank has a mediocre defensive bulk and won't appreciate an EQ or STABs from Sandslash.
- If it's hardly necessary for you to kick off Aurora Veil, Brick Break seems to be an option, but who runs that when you have stabs such as Close Combat/Superpower/Hammer Arm/Drain Punch etc. + it may take an important slot for your coverage.
- You may also run Sandstorm to counter Hail but with baby Hippo' as the only one natural setter, which is extra weak to Ice, that's nearly impossible, especially since Hail has 3 natural setters (Obamasnow, Aurorus & Vanilluxe).
That's being said, I may have find the perfect Hail counter...
Pignite @ Eviolite
Ability: Thick Fat
EVs: 248 HP / 252 Atk / 8 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Flare Blitz
- Low Kick / Superpower / Brick Break
- Flame Charge / Rest
- Will-O-Wisp / Sleep Talk / Grass Knot
Yea guys, I'm really serious... Pignite is a mediocre Monferno, that's true. But it has a decent bulk (90/55/55 + Eviolite) and Thick Fat with the Fire type is all you need to counter the Hail sweepers.
Here some calcs:
252+ Atk Life Orb Sandslash-Alola Earthquake vs. 248 HP / 0 Def Eviolite Pignite: 278-330 (72.5 - 86.1%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
+2 252+ Atk Life Orb Sandslash-Alola Iron Head vs. 248 HP / 8 Def Eviolite Pignite: 165-195 (43 - 50.9%) -- 3.9% chance to 2HKO
252+ SpA Choice Specs Aurorus Earth Power vs. 248 HP / 0 SpD Eviolite Pignite: 288-340 (75.1 - 88.7%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
252 Atk Life Orb Abomasnow Earthquake vs. 248 HP / 8 Def Eviolite Pignite: 239-283 (62.4 - 73.8%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after hail damage
252+ Atk Pignite Flare Blitz vs. 128 HP / 0 Def Sandslash-Alola: 588-696 (182 - 215.4%) -- guaranteed OHKO
252+ Atk Pignite Low Kick (120 BP) vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Aurorus: 900-1060 (232.5 - 273.9%) -- guaranteed OHKO
252+ Atk Pignite Flare Blitz vs. 0 HP / 0- Def Abomasnow: 964-1140 (300.3 - 355.1%) -- guaranteed OHKO
Unless Sandslash-A returns to NU after the next tier shift, it should be suspected since it's the only viable user of Aurora Veil (nb: Articuno and Delibird can set it too, but let's be honest, they sucks right now), because it's way centralizing in my opinion for some reasons:
- If you mind to Defog in order to remove Aurora Veil, well, good luck ! Almost all the defoggers we have are particularly weak to Ice typing. Skuntank, Lumineon and Prinplup are the exceptions but Lumi' and Prinplup are kinda passive against Hail and furthermore, they don't have any reliable recovery. It's true that Skuntank can run (Z-)Fire Blast to nuke Sandslash-A, but SandSlash-A is in anyway faster under the Hail, Skuntank has a mediocre defensive bulk and won't appreciate an EQ or STABs from Sandslash.
- If it's hardly necessary for you to kick off Aurora Veil, Brick Break seems to be an option, but who runs that when you have stabs such as Close Combat/Superpower/Hammer Arm/Drain Punch etc. + it may take an important slot for your coverage.
- You may also run Sandstorm to counter Hail but with baby Hippo' as the only one natural setter, which is extra weak to Ice, that's nearly impossible, especially since Hail has 3 natural setters (Obamasnow, Aurorus & Vanilluxe).
That's being said, I may have find the perfect Hail counter...
Pignite @ Eviolite
Ability: Thick Fat
EVs: 248 HP / 252 Atk / 8 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Flare Blitz
- Low Kick / Superpower / Brick Break
- Flame Charge / Rest
- Will-O-Wisp / Sleep Talk / Grass Knot
Yea guys, I'm really serious... Pignite is a mediocre Monferno, that's true. But it has a decent bulk (90/55/55 + Eviolite) and Thick Fat with the Fire type is all you need to counter the Hail sweepers.
Here some calcs:
252+ Atk Life Orb Sandslash-Alola Earthquake vs. 248 HP / 0 Def Eviolite Pignite: 278-330 (72.5 - 86.1%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
+2 252+ Atk Life Orb Sandslash-Alola Iron Head vs. 248 HP / 8 Def Eviolite Pignite: 165-195 (43 - 50.9%) -- 3.9% chance to 2HKO
252+ SpA Choice Specs Aurorus Earth Power vs. 248 HP / 0 SpD Eviolite Pignite: 288-340 (75.1 - 88.7%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
252 Atk Life Orb Abomasnow Earthquake vs. 248 HP / 8 Def Eviolite Pignite: 239-283 (62.4 - 73.8%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after hail damage
252+ Atk Pignite Flare Blitz vs. 128 HP / 0 Def Sandslash-Alola: 588-696 (182 - 215.4%) -- guaranteed OHKO
252+ Atk Pignite Low Kick (120 BP) vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Aurorus: 900-1060 (232.5 - 273.9%) -- guaranteed OHKO
252+ Atk Pignite Flare Blitz vs. 0 HP / 0- Def Abomasnow: 964-1140 (300.3 - 355.1%) -- guaranteed OHKO
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