Project PU Victim Of The Week

LordST

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I don't know why people reserve pokemon then never post it literally takes like 2 minutes to write a short description...

Anyways its that time of the week again so I'll just post all the mons that haven't been reserved yet that I feel deserve some recognition. So lets get started!

(This is gonna be a long post because special Floatzel has a lot of checks/counters)

Counter

Roselia @ Eviolite
Ability: Natural Cure
EVs: 252 HP / 28 Def / 228 SpD
Calm Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Giga Drain
- Sludge Bomb
- Synthesis
- Spikes

Spdef Rose can switch into a LO boosted Ice Beam and always avoid the 2hko even with rocks down. This will give Roselia the option to lay down hazards or heal up with Giga Drain/Synthesis. Giga Drain will easily ohko after rocks or one LO hit.

252 SpA Life Orb Floatzel Ice Beam vs. 252 HP / 228+ SpD Eviolite Roselia: 109-130 (35.8 - 42.7%) -- guaranteed 3HKO after Stealth Rock
0 SpA Roselia Giga Drain vs. 0 HP / 4 SpD Floatzel: 278-330 (89.3 - 106.1%) -- guaranteed OHKO after Stealth Rock


Check
Grumpig @ Leftovers
Ability: Thick Fat
EVs: 248 HP / 8 Def / 252 SpD
Calm Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Psychic
- Toxic
- Protect
- Focus Blast / Heal Bell / Thunder Wave / Taunt / Shadow Ball

This is somewhat of a forgotten set, but still a great way of checking Floatzel and other special attackers. Grumpig can easily switch in as it takes about 35% from Hydro Pump and can heal the damage off with Leftovers + Protect. Grumpig then has the option of 2hkoing with Psychic or using some of its many utility options. Psychic and Protect are really the only mandatory moves on this set , so you can get creative with your set based on your teams needs.

0 SpA Grumpig Psychic vs. 0 HP / 4 SpD Floatzel: 153-181 (49.1 - 58.1%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Stealth Rock
252 SpA Life Orb Floatzel Hydro Pump vs. 252 HP / 252+ SpD Grumpig: 121-142 (33.2 - 39%) -- guaranteed 3HKO after Stealth Rock and Leftovers recovery


Counter
Clefairy @ Eviolite
Ability: Magic Guard
EVs: 248 HP / 8 Def / 252 SpD
Calm Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Moonblast / Seismic Toss
- Thunder Wave
- Soft-Boiled
- Stealth Rock / Healing Wish / Knock Off

Spdef Clefairy can easily switch into special Floatzel and will beat it 1v1. Spdef Clefairy is a bit like Grumpig in that in can be flexible in its moveslots. Seismic Toss can be used to punish Poison type switch ins a bit more. Rocks, Healing Wish, and Knock Off all give amazing utility options to support a team.

0 SpA Clefairy Moonblast vs. 0 HP / 4 SpD Floatzel: 117-138 (37.6 - 44.3%) -- 2% chance to 2HKO after Stealth Rock (2hko after LO damage)

252 SpA Life Orb Floatzel Hydro Pump vs. 252 HP / 252+ SpD Eviolite Clefairy: 110-133 (31.9 - 38.6%) -- 96.6% chance to 3HKO


Check
Politoed @ Leftovers
Ability: Water Absorb
Shiny: Yes
EVs: 200 HP / 252 SpA / 56 Spe
Modest Nature
IVs: 1 Atk / 30 SpA
- Scald
- Ice Beam
- Hidden Power [Electric]
- Encore

This is such a classic Floatzel check it would be a crime to leave it out. Politoed can switch in relatively safely and 2hko Floatzel with HP electric. Be aware that if Floatzel uses hp electric on the switch it has a decent chance to beat Politoed. Regardless, Politoed will leave Float incredibly weak or dead to LO damage, effectively checked.

252+ SpA Politoed Hidden Power Electric vs. 0 HP / 4 SpD Floatzel: 192-228 (61.7 - 73.3%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

252 SpA Life Orb Floatzel Hidden Power Electric vs. 200 HP / 0 SpD Politoed: 130-153 (35 - 41.2%) -- 65.6% chance to 3HKO after Leftovers recovery


Check
Articuno @ Leftovers
Ability: Pressure
EVs: 4 Def / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
IVs: 1 Atk / 30 Def / 30 SpA / 30 SpD / 30 Spe
- Substitute / Hidden Power [Fighting]
- Freeze-Dry
- Hurricane
- Roost

Articuno can switch in relatively safely while at full health. Hydro Pump has about a 1% chance of 2hkoing Articuno and when you take into account the chances for a miss it's basically zero. On top of this, Articuno has the option of stalling Floatzel out quickly with Roost and Pressure. Freeze Dry is an easy ohko 100% of the time. Of course, if rocks are down Articuno can't switch in at all, which is why I categorized it as a check.

252 SpA Articuno Freeze-Dry vs. 0 HP / 4 SpD Floatzel: 320-378 (102.8 - 121.5%) -- guaranteed OHKO

252 SpA Life Orb Floatzel Hydro Pump vs. 0 HP / 4 SpD Articuno: 144-172 (44.8 - 53.5%) -- 1.2% chance to 2HKO after Leftovers recovery


Counter
Muk @ Black Sludge
Ability: Sticky Hold
EVs: 248 HP / 252 SpD / 8 Spe
Careful Nature
- Curse
- Poison Jab
- Rest
- Sleep Talk

CroMuk can sponge special hits from pretty much anything exceptionally well. Floatzel struggles to do much to it and will be 2hkoed by Poison Jab.

252 SpA Life Orb Floatzel Hydro Pump vs. 252 HP / 252+ SpD Muk: 126-149 (30.4 - 35.9%) -- guaranteed 4HKO after Black Sludge recovery

0 Atk Muk Poison Jab vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Floatzel: 145-172 (46.6 - 55.3%) -- 70.3% chance to 2HKO


Counter
Gogoat @ Leftovers
Ability: Sap Sipper
EVs: 184 HP / 252 SpD / 72 Spe
Careful Nature
- Horn Leech
- Earthquake
- Bulk Up
- Milk Drink

Gogoat is another classic Special Floatzel counter that can't be left off this list. Gogoat takes Ice Beams really well thanks to its exception special bulk. In addition, Gogoat can heal up with Milk Drink or setup with Bulk Up assuming your opponent is too scared to taunt. 72 Speed EVs allows Gogoat to outspeed Adamant max speed base 45 mons.

0 Atk Gogoat Horn Leech vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Floatzel: 260-308 (83.6 - 99%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

252 SpA Life Orb Floatzel Ice Beam vs. 228 HP / 232+ SpD Gogoat: 161-192 (36.2 - 43.2%) -- 98.2% chance to 3HKO after Leftovers recovery


That's the end until next week! People that reserve need to actually post the mons they reserve tho D:<
 
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Regice @ Leftovers
Ability: Clear Body
EVs: 248 HP / 252 SpA / 8 SpD
Modest Nature
- Ice Beam
- Thunderbolt
- Focus Blast
- Thunder Wave

Regice is a Hard Counter to special Floatzel, because it can plenarily capitalize on Floatzel by opting to T-wave, Rock Polish, or OHKO while Tanking any attack from it.

252+ SpA Regice Thunderbolt vs. 0 HP / 4 SpD Floatzel: 308-364 (99 - 117%) -- 93.8% chance to OHKO
252 SpA Life Orb Floatzel Hydro Pump vs. 248 HP / 8 SpD Regice: 95-113 (26.1 - 31.1%) -- 7.8% chance to 4HKO after Leftovers recovery
252+ SpA Life Orb Regice Thunderbolt vs. 0 HP / 4 SpD Floatzel: 400-473 (128.6 - 152%) -- guaranteed OHKO
 
Time to vote for your favorite checks and counters, here are your options
Checks
Zebstrika
Grumpig
Politoed
Articuno

Counters
Lapras
Seaking
Audino
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LordST

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Checks:
1. Politoed
2. Zebstrika
3. Articuno

Counters
1. Roselia
2. Regice
3. Lapras
 
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pancake

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lapras is nOT a counter, it is a check, although Focus Blast is uncommon some do run it, and it's 2hko'd by hP electric after rocks

these being said:

checks:
1. Zebstrika
2. Politoed
3. Grumpig

counters:
1. Regice
2. Muk
3. Clefairy
 
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Voting Time is up! The winners are....
Checks: Politoed, Zebstrika, Articuno
Counters: Regice, Muk, Roselia
This weeks victim of the week is Leafeon.


Leafeon @ Yache Berry
Ability: Leaf Guard
EVs: 252 Atk / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature
- Synthesis
- Swords Dance
- Knock Off
- Leaf Blade
Leafeon has function as one of PU's most threatening sweepers for a while now with SD and also as a Ground and Water check. As always post checks and counters to the Leafeon set and please try to balance them out.
 
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Gourgeist-XL - Counter



Gourgeist-Super @ Colbur Berry
Ability: Frisk
EVs: 248 HP / 252 Def / 8 SpD
Bold Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Foul Play
- Synthesis
- Leech Seed
- Will-O-Wisp

Gourgeist is a great switch in to Leafeon due to its great physical bulk allowing it to take any of Leafeons moves including Knock Off which it has a Colbur Berry to reduce the damage. Gourgeist can then retaliate by crippling it with Will-O-Wisp and hitting it with Foul Play.
 

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Jumpluff - Counter


Jumpluff
Ability: Chlorophyll
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 Def / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature
- Swords Dance
- Sleep Powder
- Acrobatics
- Seed Bomb

Jumpluff quad resists Leafeon's Leaf Blade and it is able to tank Knock Offs (even at +2) due to the lack of an item. Jumpluff can either 2OHKO Leafeon with Acrobatics because of its superior Speed stat or set-up Swords Dance to an anticipated switch out.

edit iRebel you forgot to include the winning counters
 
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Vullaby - Counter


Vullaby @ Eviolite
Ability: Overcoat
EVs: 248 HP / 252 Def / 8 SpD
Impish Nature
- Roost
- U-turn
- Defog
- Foul Play

Even if vulla doesn't really like to lose his eviolite, it can take any attack from leafeon even at +2 (it just have to scare a +2 return on the switch if his eviolite has been knocked) and either foul play, pivot or defog on it.
 

Altaria @ Leftovers
Ability: Natural Cure
EVs: 248 HP / 164 Def / 96 Spe
Bold Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Dragon Pulse
- Flamethrower
- Toxic
- Roost

Status: Counter
+2 252 Atk Leafeon Knock Off (97.5 BP) vs. 248 HP / 164+ Def Altaria: 158-186 (44.7 - 52.6%) -- guaranteed 3HKO after Leftovers recovery
+2 252 Atk Leafeon Leaf Blade vs. 248 HP / 164+ Def Altaria: 55-64 (15.5 - 18.1%) -- possible 8HKO after Leftovers recovery

0 SpA Altaria Flamethrower vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Leafeon: 138-164 (50.9 - 60.5%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Stealth Rock


Defensive Altaria easily switches in to Leafeon (if no rocks), checks it up to +4 and can beat Leafeon with Flamethrower / toxic.
 

HotFuzzBall

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Since no one has posted in a bit... I'll post a few more checks/counters.

Check


Monferno @ Life Orb / Eviolite
Ability: Iron Fist
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 Def / 252 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Swords Dance
- Close Combat
- Flare Blitz
- Mach Punch
Monferno resists both coverage moves (switching into Knock Off isn't too big of a deal) unboosted. Leafeon will go down to an unboosted Flare Blitz (only 44% chance to OHKO with Eviolite however). If Leafeon manages to reach +2 prior, Monferno shouldn't switch in since Leafeon does outspeed and 2OHKO with Leaf Blade even with Eviolite.

+2 252 Atk Leafeon Leaf Blade vs. 0 HP / 4 Def Eviolite Monferno: 146-172 (54.2 - 63.9%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

Counter


Mawile @ Leftovers
Ability: Intimidate
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SpD
Impish Nature
- Play Rough
- Stealth Rock
- Knock Off
- Toxic
Defensive Mawile counters Leafeon by resisting both Leaf Blade and Knock Off at +1,2 or 3 (Intimidate OP) and doesn't really mind having Leftovers knocked off. With Play Rough, Mawile has a chance to get rid of any potential stat boosts Leafeon acquired and can put it on a timer with Toxic.

+3 252 Atk Leafeon Leaf Blade vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Mawile: 131-154 (43 - 50.6%) -- guaranteed 3HKO after Leftovers recovery
+3 252 Atk Leafeon Knock Off (97.5 BP) vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Mawile: 94-111 (30.9 - 36.5%) -- guaranteed 4HKO after Leftovers recovery

Check


Articuno @ Leftovers
Ability: Pressure
EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
- Substitute
- Roost
- Hurricane
- Ice Beam
Articuno can switch into unboosted Leaf Blade or Knock Off after rocks and can OHKO Leafeon with Hurricane. However, Articuno gets OHKO by a +2 Knock Off or 2OHKO by +2 Leaf Blade with a switch in onto rocks.

+2 252 Atk Leafeon Leaf Blade vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Articuno: 131-154 (40.8 - 47.9%) -- guaranteed 3HKO after Leftovers recovery
+2 252 Atk Leafeon Knock Off (97.5 BP) vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Articuno: 188-222 (58.5 - 69.1%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Leftovers recovery

Counter


Tangela @ Eviolite
Ability: Regenerator
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 Spe
Bold Nature
- Giga Drain
- Sleep Powder
- Synthesis
- Hidden Power Fire
Tangela can switch into a +4 Knock Off or Leaf Blade easily. Even without its Eviolite, Tangela can still tank +4 Leaf Blades and Knock Offs and shudder off the damage with Synthesis. Meanwhile, Tangela does have a chance to 2OHKO Leafeon with HP Fire. Since Leafeon doesn't have Return, Tangela will be able to switch in quite freely.

0 SpA Tangela Hidden Power Fire vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Leafeon: 124-146 (45.7 - 53.8%) -- 38.7% chance to 2HKO

+4 252 Atk Leafeon Leaf Blade vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Eviolite Tangela: 85-101 (25.4 - 30.2%) -- guaranteed 4HKO
+4 252 Atk Leafeon Leaf Blade vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Tangela: 128-151 (38.3 - 45.2%) -- guaranteed 3HKO
+4 252 Atk Leafeon Knock Off (97.5 BP) vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Eviolite Tangela: 124-146 (37.1 - 43.7%) -- guaranteed 3HKO

Check


Dodrio @ Choice Band
Ability: Early Bird
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 Def / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature
- Brave Bird
- Return
- Knock Off
- Quick Attack
Dodrio easily knocks out Leafeon with Brave Bird even without its Choice Band and can switch into a +2 Leaf Blade or unboosted Knock Off. Dodrio does get knocked out if it does switch into a +2 Leaf Blade due to the recoil damage from Brave Bird (assuming Leafeon is at full health) or if rocks are up on the field. Dodrio also has a chance of getting knocked out by +2 Knock Off.

+2 252 Atk Leafeon Leaf Blade vs. 0 HP / 4 Def Dodrio: 174-205 (66.6 - 78.5%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

252 Atk Dodrio Brave Bird vs. 0 HP / 4 Def Leafeon: 278-330 (102.5 - 121.7%) -- guaranteed OHKO (without choice band)

Check


Roselia @ Eviolite
Ability: Natural Cure
EVs: 252 HP / 32 Def / 224 SpD
Calm Nature
- Spikes
- Synthesis
- Sludge Bomb
- Giga Drain
Roselia quad resists Leaf Blade and can take unboosted Knock Offs fairly well. Even with 0 SpA investment, Roselia can KO Leafeon with a single Sludge Bomb. Roselia must be warry of switching into a +2 Knock Off or Leaf Blade since Leafeon can follow up with another Knock Off to knock Roselia out potentially.

0 SpA Roselia Sludge Bomb vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Leafeon: 276-326 (101.8 - 120.2%) -- guaranteed OHKO

+2 252 Atk Leafeon Knock Off (97.5 BP) vs. 252 HP / 32 Def Eviolite Roselia: 221-260 (72.6 - 85.5%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
+2 252 Atk Leafeon Leaf Blade vs. 252 HP / 32 Def Eviolite Roselia: 76-90 (25 - 29.6%) -- guaranteed 4HKO
 
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Kadabra @ Focus Sash/ Life Orb
Ability: Magic Guard
EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
IVs: 1 Atk / 30 Def / 30 SpA / 30 SpD / 30 Spe
- Signal Beam
- Psychic
- Thunder Wave
- Hidden Power [Fighting]

Kadabra accommodates as a check to Leafeon because it can revenge kill Leafeon reliably due to its Focus Sash. Lifeorb Kadabra can additionally accommodate as a check because Kadabra can just OHKO Leafeon due to its Life Orb.
252 SpA Kadabra Signal Beam vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Leafeon: 220-260 (81.1 - 95.9%) -- 56.3% chance to OHKO after Stealth Rock
252 SpA Kadabra Psychic vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Leafeon: 198-234 (73 - 86.3%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Stealth Rock
252 SpA Life Orb Kadabra Signal Beam vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Leafeon: 286-338 (105.5 - 124.7%) -- guaranteed OHKO
252 SpA Life Orb Kadabra Psychic vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Leafeon: 257-304 (94.8 - 112.1%) -- guaranteed OHKO after Stealth Rock
 

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So iRebel is having internet difficulties this week so he asked me to post the voting stage for him. Mon is SD Synth Leafeon btw

Counters:


Checks:


Again this thread's open for voting
 

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